Re: pvp/selling seeds


scott, couldn,t have said it better. completely agree with you. have to say
i find it rather nervy of  a relitive newcomer to use info and advise from
the list and in all probability free seeds (or for postage ) he got via this
list and then turn around and demand money for seeds . just my two cents
worth.        craig
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Armstrong <sarmstrong@sgfimat.com>
To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:59 AM
Subject: pvp/selling seeds


> Chris
>      i'm sort of torn on this topic.  its pretty touchy.  there are guys
out
> there who sell seeds, and yeah, i bought some last year.  but i bought
them
> under the premise that i knew what, and how much i was getting.  you say
$15
> dollars for seeds, but how many seeds?  you said a "couple of seeds".
last year
> i paid $10 to one of the biggest growers out there, for 6 seeds, from 3
> different pumpkins that he grew, all of top quality genetics.  less money,
more
> seeds, big time grower........better odds.  you can't beat that.  was it
worth
> it?  i would say yes considering all factors.
>      you must know how much work it is to get all the seeds out, get them
dried
> and what not.........imagine doing that times 3. now, i'm not saying that
your
> pumpkin wasnt' impressive, by all means, it was a feat matched by few.
but the
> reality of it is, you're not even 100% sure what seed it came from.  just
> because it "looks" like something, doesnt' mean it is.  did you cover the
female
> and male blossoms before pollination?  did you protect the female after
> pollination?  these are important considerations.  especially when most of
us
> dedicate a full 12 months out of the year between patch prep, and actually
> growing our pumpkins.  i think we all want to be sure what we're getting.
> especially if you're going to ask for $15 dollars U.S, which as of right
now is
> worth $22.2188 canadian.  no offense, but that's alot of money for 2
unproven
> seeds.  i'm sure plenty of people will pay what you ask, and that's fine,
its
> there porogative.
>      i hope you dont' take any offense to this, but your name doesnt end
in
> dill, or checkon, or eaton, or mombert, or larue, or lloyd, or ciliberto,
or
> handy, or anderson,  etc...........and most of them have given away seeds
at one
> time or another. all they'd ask was for you to pay for postage.
>      sure, you grew one heck of a pumpkin, but would you say that you're
on par
> with these guys?  the guys that grow big ones every single year?  i
believe its
> after one develops a reputation that they can earn the right to command
the
> dollars, and even then, some don't accept them.  so tell me, why did you
grow
> this pumpkin in the first place?  was it to win money, fame, notoriety?
or did
> you do it for fun, and now that you have something extroadinary you feel
that
> you can command this kind of money?  had you grown a 500 pounder, i'd bet
a
> million dollars no one would give you your $15 bucks for two of your
seeds.  but
> if one of the "big guys" grew a 500 pounder with a good background, they
would
> get what they asked for.
>       if you still think you deserve your money, just think back to how
generous
> larry checkon was, he GAVE AWAY seeds that GREW the largest pumpkin ever.
> think about that for a second...........you grew a really large pumpkin,
no
> doubt about it, but, will those seeds in turn grow equally large pumpkins?
you
> dont' know, nobody knows.  but larrys 1190 CAME from his 815, thereby
proving
> its worth to the the giant pumpkin growing community, and he STILL gave
them
> away , even AFTER he popped his 1190,...... and didn't ask for a dime in
return.
> what does that tell you?
>      draw your own conclusions, i'm just calling it as i see it.
>
> my two cents,
> scott
>
>
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