Re: pvp/selling seeds
Craig,
I gave him the seed and the advice and didn't belong to this list until a
month ago. The only thing I see here with the negative comments is jealousy
and spite. I guess some peoplle have a hard time with a 16 year old growing
a large pumpkin. Leave the kid alone and grow up.
andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: craig sandvik <sandvik@cityoftotems.net>
To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: September 6, 2000 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: pvp/selling seeds
> scott, couldn,t have said it better. completely agree with you. have to
say
> i find it rather nervy of a relitive newcomer to use info and advise from
> the list and in all probability free seeds (or for postage ) he got via
this
> list and then turn around and demand money for seeds . just my two cents
> worth. craig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Armstrong <sarmstrong@sgfimat.com>
> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:59 AM
> Subject: pvp/selling seeds
>
>
> > Chris
> > i'm sort of torn on this topic. its pretty touchy. there are guys
> out
> > there who sell seeds, and yeah, i bought some last year. but i bought
> them
> > under the premise that i knew what, and how much i was getting. you say
> $15
> > dollars for seeds, but how many seeds? you said a "couple of seeds".
> last year
> > i paid $10 to one of the biggest growers out there, for 6 seeds, from 3
> > different pumpkins that he grew, all of top quality genetics. less
money,
> more
> > seeds, big time grower........better odds. you can't beat that. was it
> worth
> > it? i would say yes considering all factors.
> > you must know how much work it is to get all the seeds out, get
them
> dried
> > and what not.........imagine doing that times 3. now, i'm not saying
that
> your
> > pumpkin wasnt' impressive, by all means, it was a feat matched by few.
> but the
> > reality of it is, you're not even 100% sure what seed it came from.
just
> > because it "looks" like something, doesnt' mean it is. did you cover
the
> female
> > and male blossoms before pollination? did you protect the female after
> > pollination? these are important considerations. especially when most
of
> us
> > dedicate a full 12 months out of the year between patch prep, and
actually
> > growing our pumpkins. i think we all want to be sure what we're
getting.
> > especially if you're going to ask for $15 dollars U.S, which as of right
> now is
> > worth $22.2188 canadian. no offense, but that's alot of money for 2
> unproven
> > seeds. i'm sure plenty of people will pay what you ask, and that's
fine,
> its
> > there porogative.
> > i hope you dont' take any offense to this, but your name doesnt end
> in
> > dill, or checkon, or eaton, or mombert, or larue, or lloyd, or
ciliberto,
> or
> > handy, or anderson, etc...........and most of them have given away
seeds
> at one
> > time or another. all they'd ask was for you to pay for postage.
> > sure, you grew one heck of a pumpkin, but would you say that you're
> on par
> > with these guys? the guys that grow big ones every single year? i
> believe its
> > after one develops a reputation that they can earn the right to command
> the
> > dollars, and even then, some don't accept them. so tell me, why did you
> grow
> > this pumpkin in the first place? was it to win money, fame, notoriety?
> or did
> > you do it for fun, and now that you have something extroadinary you feel
> that
> > you can command this kind of money? had you grown a 500 pounder, i'd
bet
> a
> > million dollars no one would give you your $15 bucks for two of your
> seeds. but
> > if one of the "big guys" grew a 500 pounder with a good background, they
> would
> > get what they asked for.
> > if you still think you deserve your money, just think back to how
> generous
> > larry checkon was, he GAVE AWAY seeds that GREW the largest pumpkin
ever.
> > think about that for a second...........you grew a really large pumpkin,
> no
> > doubt about it, but, will those seeds in turn grow equally large
pumpkins?
> you
> > dont' know, nobody knows. but larrys 1190 CAME from his 815, thereby
> proving
> > its worth to the the giant pumpkin growing community, and he STILL gave
> them
> > away , even AFTER he popped his 1190,...... and didn't ask for a dime in
> return.
> > what does that tell you?
> > draw your own conclusions, i'm just calling it as i see it.
> >
> > my two cents,
> > scott
> >
> >
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