Re: pvp/selling seeds

From: "Andrew Papez" <apapez@home.com>
To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: stump rot
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:18:01 -0500
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Hello,
I was using benomyl on my stump and stem last year. Another grower suggested
not to use that since benomyl is a systemic and could harm the plant. Captan
is not available in Ontario Canada unless you have a commercial license. Any
thoughts on this from the list members and any suggestions. andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Ethan Jervis <ejervis@mindspring.com>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: February 20, 2000 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: stump rot

>Hello. I once had the same problem but was able to save the stump. Make
sure
>that there is no shade around the stump so that the sun can beat right down
>on it. Make sure it get's good air flow over the stump. Keep it as dry as
>you can and on a regular basis put some captan on it. I also have gone as
>far as to blow hot air on the stump from a portable kerosene heater. It
>worked for me.
>
>
Andrew: the above shows that your time on the list is off a bit.


At 01:25 PM 9/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Craig,
>
>I gave him the seed and the advice and didn't belong to this list until a
>month ago. The only thing I see here with the negative comments is jealousy
>and spite. I guess some peoplle have a hard time with a 16 year old growing
>a large pumpkin. Leave the kid alone and grow up.
>
>andrew
>----- Original Message -----
>From: craig sandvik <sandvik@cityoftotems.net>
>To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Sent: September 6, 2000 9:47 PM
>Subject: Re: pvp/selling seeds
>
>
>> scott, couldn,t have said it better. completely agree with you. have to
>say
>> i find it rather nervy of  a relitive newcomer to use info and advise from
>> the list and in all probability free seeds (or for postage ) he got via
>this
>> list and then turn around and demand money for seeds . just my two cents
>> worth.        craig
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Scott Armstrong <sarmstrong@sgfimat.com>
>> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 6:59 AM
>> Subject: pvp/selling seeds
>>
>>
>> > Chris
>> >      i'm sort of torn on this topic.  its pretty touchy.  there are guys
>> out
>> > there who sell seeds, and yeah, i bought some last year.  but i bought
>> them
>> > under the premise that i knew what, and how much i was getting.  you say
>> $15
>> > dollars for seeds, but how many seeds?  you said a "couple of seeds".
>> last year
>> > i paid $10 to one of the biggest growers out there, for 6 seeds, from 3
>> > different pumpkins that he grew, all of top quality genetics.  less
>money,
>> more
>> > seeds, big time grower........better odds.  you can't beat that.  was it
>> worth
>> > it?  i would say yes considering all factors.
>> >      you must know how much work it is to get all the seeds out, get
>them
>> dried
>> > and what not.........imagine doing that times 3. now, i'm not saying
>that
>> your
>> > pumpkin wasnt' impressive, by all means, it was a feat matched by few.
>> but the
>> > reality of it is, you're not even 100% sure what seed it came from.
>just
>> > because it "looks" like something, doesnt' mean it is.  did you cover
>the
>> female
>> > and male blossoms before pollination?  did you protect the female after
>> > pollination?  these are important considerations.  especially when most
>of
>> us
>> > dedicate a full 12 months out of the year between patch prep, and
>actually
>> > growing our pumpkins.  i think we all want to be sure what we're
>getting.
>> > especially if you're going to ask for $15 dollars U.S, which as of right
>> now is
>> > worth $22.2188 canadian.  no offense, but that's alot of money for 2
>> unproven
>> > seeds.  i'm sure plenty of people will pay what you ask, and that's
>fine,
>> its
>> > there porogative.
>> >      i hope you dont' take any offense to this, but your name doesnt end
>> in
>> > dill, or checkon, or eaton, or mombert, or larue, or lloyd, or
>ciliberto,
>> or
>> > handy, or anderson,  etc...........and most of them have given away
>seeds
>> at one
>> > time or another. all they'd ask was for you to pay for postage.
>> >      sure, you grew one heck of a pumpkin, but would you say that you're
>> on par
>> > with these guys?  the guys that grow big ones every single year?  i
>> believe its
>> > after one develops a reputation that they can earn the right to command
>> the
>> > dollars, and even then, some don't accept them.  so tell me, why did you
>> grow
>> > this pumpkin in the first place?  was it to win money, fame, notoriety?
>> or did
>> > you do it for fun, and now that you have something extroadinary you feel
>> that
>> > you can command this kind of money?  had you grown a 500 pounder, i'd
>bet
>> a
>> > million dollars no one would give you your $15 bucks for two of your
>> seeds.  but
>> > if one of the "big guys" grew a 500 pounder with a good background, they
>> would
>> > get what they asked for.
>> >       if you still think you deserve your money, just think back to how
>> generous
>> > larry checkon was, he GAVE AWAY seeds that GREW the largest pumpkin
>ever.
>> > think about that for a second...........you grew a really large pumpkin,
>> no
>> > doubt about it, but, will those seeds in turn grow equally large
>pumpkins?
>> you
>> > dont' know, nobody knows.  but larrys 1190 CAME from his 815, thereby
>> proving
>> > its worth to the the giant pumpkin growing community, and he STILL gave
>> them
>> > away , even AFTER he popped his 1190,...... and didn't ask for a dime in
>> return.
>> > what does that tell you?
>> >      draw your own conclusions, i'm just calling it as i see it.
>> >
>> > my two cents,
>> > scott
>> >
>> >
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Thanks,
Bill Van Iderstine
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