Re: Andrew's comments
Gus,
As long it is weighed at a local weighoff, not at a local truck scales then
yes its official, but to weigh it because you think it won't last thats not
official. It has to be on a certain day not whenever the grower feels like
it.
andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Smithhisler, Paul" <Paul.Smithhisler@dnr.state.oh.us>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: Andrew's comments
> Gentlemen and Ladies,
>
> An official weight, by definition, is a sound fruit, weighed on a
certified
> scale, with credible witnesses. Are you telling me that if a fruit at
> Barnsville, or Circleville, or Half moon Bay would not be a record since
it
> was not 'sanctioned' by the GPC or WPC? What about the local fair?
>
> I agree with Chris, an official record must follow well established
> guidelines to be official. If I had the 'Worlds Biggest Zuchini' and
there
> was no weigh-off for zuchini, would it not be official?
>
> Think about it!
>
> -Gus
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Papez
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: 9/9/02 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Andrew's comments
>
> Mike,
>
> From your side of things, yes I don't think it matters as much. But from
> the growers side for it to be a new record it should be weighed at a
> weigh off. Your site is very important to all us growers and especially
> me, and this sport wouldn't be what it is today without your site. But
> for weights to count for something we need a little more rules in are
> sport. To us growers a official weight counts for a lot more then a UOW
> , EST, EXH does.
>
> andrew
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Papez <a*@cogeco.ca>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net <p*@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Andrew's comments
>
> Mike,
>
> Maybe I worded my response wrong, but I still disagree here. This is
> were we get into problems. What is to prevent a grower from weighing a
> pumpkin in Mid August, because he, she feels the pumpkin will not last
> until October. If I had felt that way I would have weighed my 1058 Uow
> sooner then I did last year. When people ask what my personal best is, I
> say 1020 pounds because I feel the 1058 doesn't count. I think they
> should all be weighed at some form of weigh off with many witnesses
> around. If your going for a State record or provincial record I really
> think it needs to be weighed at a weigh off, because I know if the
> Canadian record was weighed at the local feed store with no credible
> witnesses or only one or two of your friends around, growers would
> always question its validity or say it doesn't count because it wasn't
> weighed at a weigh off GPC or not. Just my opinion
>
> andrew
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike <a*@hotmail.com> Nepereny
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 6:55 PM
> Subject: Andrew's comments
>
> >>Its not really a official new State record unless weighed at a
> sanctioned site on Oct 5th.
>
> I strongly disagree. As long as the pumpkin is weighed properly, is in
> good shape and credibly witnessed, the date and location of the weighing
> is irrelevant. I am personally dedicated to promoting the sport of giant
> pumpkin growing rather than promoting sanctioned weighoffs. This is the
> very reason I made my '
> <http://www.hort.net/lists//pumpkins/sep02/msg00157.html> EXH, DQ, UOW,
> EST' post. A grower should not be penalized or his achievement made less
> significant just because he either does not have organized weighoffs in
> his area or has chosen to weigh his pumpkin through a channel other than
> an organized weighoff event. The location of the scale has nothing to do
> with the pumpkin it weighs or the effort it took to get it there.
>
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