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Re: Stupid Judge! It's a pumpkin, NOT aSquash! Need helpproving it...

I actually have a copy of Howards PVP for "Dills Atlantic Giants" .......
There is no PVP for "Atlantic Giants" because they are a public variety
.......... And 'yes' there is a big difference between the two. I will dig
up the patent and scan it, then post it to the group but it will take a
couple of days.

Troy.

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> From: Duncan McAlpine <mcalpin@eskimo.com>
> To: Pumpkins@athenet.net
> Subject: Re: Stupid Judge! It's a pumpkin, NOT aSquash! Need helpproving
it...
> Date: Sunday, September 21, 1997 9:37 AM
> 
> Here is my two cents...yes the dif between a pumpkin and a squash is the
> 5 star stem to skin interface....but wait....look through the archives
> and search for an old posting about Howard Dill's registared patent. 
> Now they call this a bla bla
> 
> I know there is a URL but I can't find it. You can add this your
> justification.  I can't remember what a PVP is? If the USDA classifies
> it as a patent pumpkin can he overide this ruling for a fair?
> 
> OLD POSTING
>                                                         
> Attention Pumpkin People:
> 
> Note the following from the USDA in response to my question. It looks
> like
> everyone is at least a little right. In the spirit of XMAS, is this
> enough to
> end the seed controversy and get on with just growing them?
> 
> 
> December  21, 1996
> 
> Dear Ms. Stanton,
> 
> I was trying to determine whether or not Howard Dill has a PVP on what
> is
> being called "Dill's Atlantic Giant Pumpkin." Your system is so
> complicated
> that I was unable to find anything. In fact, I think I am getting a
> headache
> from working with it. Can you please help me?
> 
>                                                    
> Subj:   Dill's Atlantic Giant Pumpkin -Reply
> Date:   96-12-23 08:26:24 EST
> From:   Marsha_A.Stanton@usda.gov (Marsha A Stanton)
> To:     Lubadub@aol.com (Receipt Notification Requested)
> CC:     Janice_M.Strachan@hq.usda.gov (Janice M.Strachan)
> 
> 'Dill's Atlantic Giant' is protected by PVP.  The PV number is 8500204.
> 
> The following information is from our homepage.  
> 
> Variety: Dill's Atlantic Giant 
> Taxon: Cucurbita maxima Duchesne  
> Crop: Pumpkin 
> Applicant_Owner: Howard Dill
> Enterprises, Ltd. 
> Date Application Filed: 09/09/1985 
> Current_Status: Certificate issued 
> Date_Certificate_Issued: 05/30/1986 
> Years_Protected: 18 
> 
> I'm sorry you found the system confusing.  To locate a 'Dill's Atlantic
> Giant", I selected databases from the homepage, then I selected Crop and
> then
> pumpkin from the list of crop types.  Information on all pumpkin
> applications
> or certificates was
> displayed.  
> 
> Because of similarity in names, there has been some confusion between
> 'Atlantic Giant' and 'Dill's Atlantic Giant'. The variety 'Atlantic
> Giant' is
> a public
> variety and is open for public use and sales.
> 
> 
> Now this is a regestared variety.....another issue...why do they have
> the world largest pumpkin in the Guniess book of records as a Atlantic
> giant?
> -- 
> Duncan McAlpine, Federal Way, WA   m*@eskimo.com
> Why buy plants when you can grow them yourself.....?
> http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/
> http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/pumkin.html
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