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Re: [PRIMROSES] Dealing With Tree Roots
- To: P*@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
- Subject: Re: [PRIMROSES] Dealing With Tree Roots
- From: B* G* <b*@ALA.NET>
- Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:44:20 -0600
>There are other wonderful Daylilies which also grow well in
>shade.....Bibbs Gamber, also a new robin member, may be able to help us
>more here. She is my Daylily "consultant"....an real expert when it comes
>to Daylilies.
>Bibbs, would you step in here and help us out?
>Sherryl Sandersfeld
>Norman, OK
Hello New found friends (and some that are already very dear to my heart!)!
Goodness me, but Sherryl has made me out to be an authority! LOL! Well, I
guess that's a first for me! Thanks Sherryl! Now, if there is anything
that you all would like to know and I don't have the answer, since I am on
the daylily robin, I have contact with the REAL authorities! Those experts
can give us all the answers!
To answer Sherryl's question, just about any tetraploid daylily will bloom
well in a shady garden. Not total shade though. Needs some filtered
light. In the diploid category, only those that are very dark (purple,
red, etc) will bloom in the shade (although not as profusely). Daylilies
like JAMES MARSH, FRANK GLADNEY, ILLINI JACKPOT, HOT EMBERS, BLACK WATCH,
MIDNIGHT MAGIC, NIGHT WINGS, BLOODSPOT, ALWAYS AFTERNOON, COLLECTOR'S
CHOICE, BLACK AMBROSIA, EZEKIEL, Oh, and MAGIC CARPET RIDE will all do well
in semi shade. I do not know of a one that will bloom well in total shade.
Thank you for allowing me to join this new robin! It is wonderful to meet
new friends and to join with other friends that are with me on another
robin! My husband Ed and I live in Dothan, AL , Region 14, zone 8b. We
have a small city lot where we grow as many daylilies as we can possibly
fit into the area without having to take up the grass for the walkways!
Even those walkways seem to be getting narrower with time. We grow
approximately 350 differnt cultivars (that is after I found homes for about
300 other cultivars that were taking up much needed room) and have about
7,000 seedlings that we are testing in the garden. Hybridizing is mostly
for Tet doubles and exotics.
In the front yard, we have mostly sun, however, there is one oak tree that
we planted about 7 years ago as a sapling that came up in the back yard.
It is about 40 feet tall now and the roots love to come up to the surface
and take up nutrients and water from the daylilies. We have built up the
beds around this tree to about a foot higher than the natural ground level.
When doing this, we took out every living plant and then added alot of
manure (cow, horse) and alot of leaves and pine straw (needles) which we
tilled in really well. As we tilled we got rid of all the feeder roots
from the tree that were above ground level (these will always come back!)
On bigger roots, we have taken the ax and elbow grease and whacked away at
them until we had room to till! this takes courage and alot of strength so
maybe is not good idea for some women to try it. Particularly if you
already have carpel tunnel syndrome from mouse usage! LOL! :-) Like
me!!!!!!!!
These beds were left alone for a couple days except for watering! Longer
if we had rain. Then we filled the beds back up with daylilies,
perennials, and small shrubs. This is an ongoing thing at my house. Most
beds get redone every year or so. It is one thing that I love most about
gardening.......if you don't like where it is, you can just move it. The
only things that we leave without moving are the basic landscaping trees
and shrubs. Big job for 3/4 acre!
For those of you who do not know me, I am 52 years of age and began
gardening at my mother's knees! She is the one who passed on those
gardening genes to me! Over the years knowledge has grown and alot of it
by trial and error! My errors!!! Hubby would never plant anything that he
wasn't sure would grow here! I am always trying out something new and
different and particularly those items which not many people normally grow
in their garden. I am such a greedy thing when it comes to plants. We
grow bulbs, perennials, annuals (very few), shrubs, trees, etc. Since we
are so close to being subtropic I love to try tropical plants in the
landscape.
This has become somewhat long and know you all are tired of reading so will
close for now.
One question I would like to ask about shade gardening. Are there any
pretty perennials besides astilbe and hosta that will grow this far south
in deep shade?
Hope everyone had a very blessed Christmas and that your New Year will
bring you almost all of your heart's desires!
Bibbs Gamber, Alabama Grandma
Zone 8b
PS. A special "Hello" to Robyn Dubeck!
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