Re: Cimicifuga - seedling?
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- Subject: Re: [SG] Cimicifuga - seedling?
- From: D* B* T*
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:44:39 -0600
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I got the Black Beauties from a mail order nursery. I would think they
wouldn't be selling seedlings, though your discussion below, Marge, makes me
wonder if the plants were just very young and had to do some long-term
development. They were about 6" when they arrived. Is there a correlation
between the growth rate of seedlings and of young,
let's-assume-TC-propogated plants?
Diann
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From: PRIMROSES [s*@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU]On Behalf Of
Marge Talt
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:48 AM
To: shadegardens@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
Subject: Re: [SG] Cimicifuga - seedling?
Arnhild,
I think that isolated species should seed pretty true, given the
variations that normal sexual reproduction can have. I think - no
scientific basis or actual experience - that if you sow seed from one
of the darker varieties, there's probably a good chance that some of
the seedlings will exhibit the dark characteristics and some will be
lighter. Try it and see:-)
I have grown Cimicifuga from seed. Found that I had one seedling
germinate the first year and the rest the second. Have since
discovered they need a warm/cold cycle and that can be shortened by
giving them warmth and then putting them in the fridge. Think I
read this on Tom Clothier's seed germination database.
http://www.anet-chi.com/~manytimes/
will get you there.
Have found seedlings extremely slow growing. The first year they
barely get an inch tall. Took 3 years from germination to get plants
large enough to set out in the garden and bambi promptly denuded
them. I do not know if they survived..will see come spring :-(
If you have the patience, they are well worth trying. I sowed mine
after seed was ripe - very late fall - and left the small flat
outside over winter and then just left it out for that summer and
since I had one germinate the first spring, the second year I brought
the flat into my cold pseudo greenhouse that hovered around freezing
but didn't. The following spring, they popped up like mustard and
cress. I left the lot in that flat for yet another year as they were
so small, and then transplanted them to individual pots and then
potted them on as they grew a tad.
Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
mtalt@clark.net
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> From: Arnhild Bleie <abbl@ONLINE.NO>
> Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:59 AM
>
> I am wondering if the seedlings from the different named Cimicifuga
will
> give a true offspring or if we get a variation?
> I wonder what experience you have with these seedlings you are grow
Marge?
> I have C.r.'Atropurpurea' myself ... and saved seeds this last
autumn. I
> have heard they are extremly difficulty to get to germinate etc?
But I
> would not care if I manange, becuase between all the fragrant
plants in my
> garden I think this has the best fragrance of all!
> Has anyone else tried sow seeds from 'Atropurpurea' and have
comments about
> how offpring vary I will be glad for it?
>
> Arnhild - Hardanger in Norway 60 *N
> *The greatest gift of the garden is peace of mind*
