Hello Gene and everyone Has anyone ever heard of Culver's Root. I think this is the name of a really nice looking upright plume type plant I found only once in central Iowa. Thanks Bob -- Bob Axmear 208 2nd St Ne Waukon,Ia 52172-1308 319 568-4859 http://www.gem-enterprises.com/axmear/home.html HOSTAS ONLINE http://www.gem-enterprises.com/axmear/webwork.html