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Re: [SG] help with ID was: cimicifuga

>I grow several varieties of Cimicifuga, so in the wet and mud (we have had
>rain for 40 days and nights), I checked my labels and took a few notes.  I
>make no allegations, nor do I pretend to know anymore about my plants than
>what my books tell me, according to the varieties I think I'm growing.  That
>sentence may make sense only to me.  The names I will list are the names that
>came with the plants.  My personal observations match the descriptions in my
>reference material.
>
>1.  Cimicifuga racemosa - 7 yr. planting.  Green stems/leaves.  Pure white
>bottle-brushes are presently in bloom on 5-6' plants.
>2.  C. ramosa atropurpurea - 4 yr. planting.  Purple/green stems, new growth
>is green with purplish cast to edges of leaves. Mature leaves are green.  No
>blooms are present but I do recall it normally blooms in October.  3-4' tall.
>3.  C. Hillside Black Beauty - 2 yr. planting.  New growth on stems and
leaves
>is green, w/purplish cast to edges of leaves.  Mature leaves and stems are
>dark purple, (stunning).  Plants have not bloomed for me; have my toes
crossed
>for this year.  My fingers were taken along with cash for these plants, ). :)


Like Patsy I also grow a few cimicifuga's but so far only the purple types.
I have been growing C. 'Atropurpurea' for about 5 years now in fairly dry
shade and the foliage mound is about 48" high and 30" wide, flowers in late
September and October with an extremely fragrant flower spike that reaches
8' to 9' in height. Also grow 'Brunette' which has slightly more purple
foliage but hasn't flowered yet and after seeing 'Northside Black Beauty'
in Patsy's garden last year with it's has stunning dark purple foliage. I
was also reading in The Random House Book of Perennials by Roger Phillips
and Martyn Rix that all forms of C. ramosa are actually forms of C. simplex
and the name ramosa should no longer be used. Anyone know more on this?

John Kee     Ontario,  Zone 5b or 4 USDA
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