[SpaceAgeRobin] Re: Hello


Hi Ruth,

Welcome to the Robin, there's a lot of collective knowledge here on 
board and I think we can possibly get you started on your goal to 
breeding smaller Space Agers.  Having said that, it will be no easy 
task since there are very few smaller SA's out there to start with.

You might try collecting pollen from your favorite MTB, SDB or BB 
varieties and use them to cross on your TB Space Agers.  Still, your 
chances of getting SA off spring may be very small, say 1 in 50 or 
less on this type of cross , in a worst case scenario, nothing at 
all.  You'll need to grow many seedlings and you should use parents 
that are known to thrive in your climate. I'd suggest using 
MESMERIZER because it thrives in Idaho and up where I live in Quebec, 
it is also known to pass on more SA genes in crosses resulting in 
larger appendages like spoons, flounces and rosettes.  

The road you plan on following is surely one that is less travelled 
but it's wide open for you to make some interesting break throughs.  
Best of luck and please keep us posted as to what you decide to buy 
for next year.  

Chris



--- In SpaceAgeRobin@yahoogroups.com, "Neil A Mogensen" <neilm@c...> 
wrote:
>
> Ruth, a most hearty welcome!
> 
> As to sources of space age irises in general, considering your 
location
> in Idaho at 4b climate, you might consider hardy location suppliers 
such
> as the Idaho, Utah and Colorado growers, midwestern suppliers such 
as in
> Nebraska or Iowa, or Snowpeak Iris and Daylily in Lebanon, OR in the
> Willamette Valley.
> 
> Even though western Oregon is a great deal milder than you are,
> Snowpeak's on-line catalog has a number of photos, and does plainly 
mark
> rebloomers (RE), space age (SA) and other variations from ordinary
> one-season TB's.  I would expect you to have little trouble with 
climate
> adaptation if you order and plant early.
> 
> Importing irises from mild climate locations may or may not be an
> entirely satisfactory exercise, but two major suppliers of quality 
stock
> that have many very good SA irises are Superstition Gardens and 
Sutton's
> in California.  Both are developing many new, very good varieties.
> Superstition's Solar Fire is spectacular.
> 
> There is a long list of commercial suppliers on a link from the 
American
> Iris Society's website at http://www.irises.org/links.htm --click on
> "Commercial Directory...."  A number of the Idaho folks are listed, 
such
> as Blue Cloud, Winslow and Riverview.
> 
> There is a lot of iris information on the AIS website in addition 
to the
> page for which I've supplied the URL above, which you may enjoy 
browsing
> later.
> 
> The one Idaho grower that specializes in SA irises is Keith 
Chadwick at
> Sandhollow, between Caldwell and New Plymouth.  He has a lot of very
> interesting looking things but is not listed in the AIS directory.  
I
> believe there is a web site, but I do not have a URL for it.
> 
> There may be several BB SA's, but I know of few if any SDB's.
> Introducing SA characteristics into IB and SDB types is an 
interesting,
> and worthy, objective.  You might find initial success limited, but 
who
> can say?  The genetics of SA's is not at all well understood--that 
is
> why you will find numerous references to "SAGE" (Space Age Genetics
> Endeavor, or Effort, or Exploration, that "E" isn't firmly settled 
on
> any one word yet).  SAGE is a project spanning several years and 
several
> nations to try to pin down how SA characteristics are inherited.
> 
> Three Dykes Medal winners have been SA TB's.  Thornbird, 
Conjuration and
> Mesmerizer are very widely circulated.  That most beautiful of them,
> perhaps, is Conjuration.  That's a matter of taste and opinion, of
> course.
> 
> Many members of this list would be happy to answer questions, offer 
aid
> or advice, information or suggestions.  You will find yourself most
> welcome!
> 
> Neil Mogensen  z 7  AIS Region 4, western NC mountains  (but 
formerly
> from Idaho)
> 
> .
>






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