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Re: Warning- diatribe was Re: Opinions please.

Lisa,this was a thoughtful/insightful response..And I have no arguement with
your findings..Here in the arid climate of s.w.Idaho few(though not all) of
what you've mentioned (plants)would ever be more than a garden nuisance but
very unlikely to become invaders of  wild settings...I always wonder about
nature and the methods she uses to spread plant life and since winds,birds
etc.play such a strong role in the scheme of things wonder if we are the only
'culprits' in this issue..But I only wish to inform,so that those that have
sufficient interest will have an opportunity to response to this controversial
subject..

I am enclosing  the text of post send to another list to help explain some of
the acronyms..
Connie Hoy wrote:

> I cant blame anyone for questioning this post..So let me answer some of the
> questions I have noted invarious posts..
>
> 1.)Hoax?Only if you think the ANLA(American Nursery&Landscape Nurserymen)
> has fallen victim to false rumor,they themselves posted this issue in their
> newletter.
>
> 2.)What is is USDA- APHIS?=United States Department of Agricultural,(Animal
> &Plants Health Inspection Service)
>
> 3.)ANA =American Association of Nurserymen
>
> 4.)Alicia when your having personal problems do you no longer meet your job
> responsibilities?
>     (Yes,I think he will respond to this issue(however dont have any idea
> what that response will be.)
>
> 5.)I would NEVER knowingly post anything to any list as a hoax.
>
> I simply feel an informed public has the opportunity to react/respond to
> issues of interest/concern to themselves..You cant respond to what your
> unaware of.
> For some this issue is more than a hobby, therefore its imperative that
> information is widely known.
> Connie
>
> Alicia Bayer wrote:
>
> > Without a verifiable source listed for something like this, I
> > automatically consider it a hoax.
> > --Alicia
> > P.S.  Do any of us honestly believe that with this circus going on
> > Clinton is making decisions about PLANTS right now?!
> >

Lisa Flaum wrote:

> Hi Connie,
> I don't think this statement gives me much info.  It doesn't tell me what
> the exec order is going to be.  I don't recognize the acronym ANLA.
> Looking out on my woods, infested with bush honeysuckle and multiflora
> rose, in a state where these plants, as well as Euonymus alatus and
> fortunei, various species of Rhamnus, and crown vetch, are still sold,
> doesn't give me much confidence in the USDA, regional DNRs or the ability
> of all nurserys to voluntarily police themselves.  I can open the catalog
> of a well known mail order nursery and find for sale alien plants grown
> from seed collected within the last 3 years. Sometimes the species
> designation is in doubt or missing altogether.  There is no way these
> plants could have been evaluated for invasiveness.  This does not strike me
> as voluntary responsibility.  We gardeners aren't much better-the owner is
> a frequent speaker at gardening symposiums around the country; the owner's
> name is considered a draw.
>  What do I do?  I don't buy any plants from local nurseries that sell known
> local invasives(invasivness varies from place to place).  I am choosy about
> mail order sources (crown vetch is invasive everywhere).  I don't plant
> non-native, berrying shrubs and trees, and I am very cautious with new
> perennials and annuals, deadheading the non natives to avoid spread. There
> are a lot of aliens that I am fond of and I do not want to see the stream
> of new plants dry up.  I agree we should keep the government out of as much
> as possible, but it took me 34 years to recognize the dangers inherent in
> invasive flora and in the meantime I planted things I now regret.  I think
> it would be great if everyone was aware, responsible, and educated in
> issues, but it just ain't so. Some people don't know, some don't care, some
> figure their one little plant isn't a problem. As long as people will buy a
> plant, and it is legal, someone will sell it, voluntary standards to the
> contrary. Perhaps we do need some standards to evaluate invasiveness, and
> perhaps they should be required.  I worry; after all, kudzu is just 100
> miles from me and moving fast.
>
> Lisa, zone 6 IL
> >
> >> * The Clinton Administration is preparing an executive order on
> >> invasive plant species. ANLA fears the order could erode USDA-
> >> APHIS’ autonomy to make plant pest prevention decisions and
> >> threaten plant introductions in the nursery industry. ANLA hopes to
> >> work with the Weed Science Society of America and the American
> >> Assoc. of Botanic Gardens and Arboreta to develop voluntary
> >> “standards of conduct” for evaluating invasiveness when introducing
> >> plants.
> >>
> >
> >
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