Fw: [Aroid-l] Please help me with Arum IDs

To be corrected by Peter Boyce is a privilege.

I received your answer this evening, Peter. Thank you for your help.

Group, what do you think? Many horticultural selections of A. dioscoridis have lost
their taxonomical distinction and been wrapped into one variable species.
Fine. But given that so many of the arums in horticulture are clones, is it
not perhaps useful to repeat their former names, e.g. "This is the plant
formerly known as var. spectabile"? Or does that just defer understanding that variation is the norm?

As for my elongatum glitch: Thank you for confirming it, Peter. It's interesting how the mind keeps sifting. Already by this
morning, my sleeping brain had signalled, "Ah-ooga, ah-ooga!" Looking at my web page, I realized that I had mixed up the images of nigrum and elongatum, and
reposted the page.

Peter, do other growers plague you with requests for names?

If my orientale is orientale, some of the other orientales online must be something else.

I spent months in Borneo in the early 1980s, but was focused elsewhere. Failed to differentiate the orchids or the
Araceae. Thought of them all as plants.

Paige Woodward
paige@hillkeep.ca
www.hillkeep.ca


----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Boyce" <peterboyce@myjaring.net>
To: "Discussion of aroids" <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Please help me with Arum IDs


Hi Paige

cf concinnatum is concinnatum x cyrenaicum

dioscorides Spectabile Form is dioscorides var. dioscorides

dioscorides var. cyprium is d. var. syriacum

dioscorides var. cyprium Dark Form is d. var. dioscorides

dioscorides var. philistaeum is aslo d. var. dioscorides.

A. elongatum is A. nigrum

A. orientale and all other names are correct

Very best wishes

Pete


----- Original Message ----- From: "Pacific Rim" <paige@hillkeep.ca>
To: <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:31 AM
Subject: [Aroid-l] Please help me with Arum IDs


Dear all: I have been struggling to give correct names to some Arums that
are new to me.  Yes, "The Genus Arum" is on my Christmas list. But
meanwhile, if anyone would like to comment, on or offline, about the
identity of any of the Arums on my website at
http://www.hillkeep.ca/bulbs%20arum.htm, I would be grateful.  I am open
to
corrections on every ID, but the ones that particularly worry me at the
moment are:

-- "Arum aff. concinnatum."  Should this be concinnatum?
--  all the A. dioscoridis group.
-- A. orientale. The photo is of the plant. But does it look like
orientale?
If not, what do you think it is?

With thanks,

Paige Woodward
paige@hillkeep.ca
www.hillkeep.ca

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