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Re: an apolgy if it is order

  • Subject: Re: an apolgy if it is order
  • From: brian lee <lbmkjm@yahoo.com>
  • Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT)

Dear Steve,

Aloha.  I have been away in the field looking for
Hawaiian palms.  Let me respond by telling you about
the past few days.

Last week, I was told of a population of palms by one
of the top botanists in Hawaii.  We arranged to hike
to the palms to investigate and found that this
population will be significant biogeographically and
perhaps, taxonomically. 

The next morning, we flew out to Lanai to search for
another palm that is part of an 80 year botanical
mystery.  Two days of searching and we located that
palm.  However, we still have not been able to answer
the mystery definitively.  Sometimes discovery creates
new questions.

Botany, and taxonomy are processes.  We do not always
have ready answers to all our questions.  Some answers
are elusive because the herbarium sheets or the
descriptions do not match what we find in the field. 
New revisions and changing concepts in defining
species are part of this process.  Sometimes we work
with the best of available information....but this may
not be adequate in all cases.

Asking questions is the sign of the curious mind.  It
is a healthy process. No one has control over
another's opinion.  Unless the individual is willing
to discuss the matter at hand in a professional
manner, it is not worth your time.  However, keep
asking questions and being a part of "the process". 

Aloha...your friend in the Pacific,

Leland


--- ExoticRainforest <Steve@exoticrainforest.com>
wrote:

> To everyone on Aroid l,
> 
> If any apology for some of my comments or questions
> on Aroid l is in order, I gladly offer it.
> 
> I received a very disturbing message tonight with a
> direct copy (slightly edited) that I posted on this
> forum about my construction of my epiphyte tree. 
> The message came from a person whose name showed up
> as Holly Cooper.  I do not know Holly but she has
> posted a similar message once before on the
> GardenWeb.  In that case, another individual had
> requested a photo of Anthurium cubense.  I had taken
> a photo of Denis' plant which was tagged Anthurium
> cubense with Leland Miyano standing with it at the
> 2007 IAS Aroid Show.  As it turned out, Leland later
> pointed out the vein count on that plant did not
> match Dr. Croat's scientific description so we
> learned later that plant is not a full species and
> liekly a hybrid.  The moderators of the GardenWeb
> forum took down her post since it referred to me by
> a strong term.
> 
> If I have irritated any of you with my constant
> comments and questions, I sincerely apologize.  I am
> only a student of aroid botany and constantly ask
> questions in order to learn.  I don't believe anyone
> can find any place on my website or on the net where
> I have ever claimed to be an expert in plants.  I
> just study them, ask a lot of questions of Dr.
> Croat, Leland and Julius and I probably read too
> much.  The only aroid experts I know are the ones I
> try to accurately quote in my internet articles.
> 
> This is what I received from Ms. Cooper.  I have
> purposely removed her email address:
> 
> From Holly Cooper:
> 
> Here is a link that might be useful: 
> http://www.pompousasswords.com/www/index.htm
> 
> YOU ARE SUCH AN
>
IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>  The people you so religiously quote are ashamed to
> be associated with you.  Yes!  It's true!  Emails
> are flying behind your back!  You are the absolute
> shame of the UBC horticultural site.  NO ONE wants
> to be associated with you but out of pity they
> endure your presence.  STOP GRANDSTANDING.  CAN YOU
> NOT HEAR THE LAUGHTER??????????????????
> 
> Again, my apologies if I have offended anyone on
> Aroid l.  It was certainly not intended.
> 
> Steve Lucas
> www.ExoticRainforest.com>
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