Dear Eduardo et al Hooray at last! I have finally received a reply from Alvim Seidel via snail mail ! They did receive my fax but curiously decided to mail me a reply rather than fax me. Anyway they have advised that they will sell us smaller seed quantities ( approx. 100 seeds ) for 30% of the 1000 seed price. They did not send an updated list so perhaps it hasnt changed from 1991.I plan to post the list onto Aroid-L in the next day or so together with prices. I understand Todd Ruth has volunteered to be the US link man. Is that still OK Todd ? Todd I will email you direct the list of names and email addresses of those who have registered interest in being in the seed order, then you can take it from there. Thanks again to Eduardo for his perserverence in chasing up Alvim Seidel for those of us participating in the seed order Regards Neil Neil Crafter Adelaide Australia