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Re: Varigated ZZ`s and more.

  • Subject: Re: Varigated ZZ`s and more.
  • From: "Daniel Devor" <plantguy@zoominternet.net>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:25:42 -0400

Of course, there are others, like FDA-approved antibiotics that are known to 
cause things like read-through of premature stop codons that are actually 
clinically useful that also cause plastid mutations so a careful literature 
search might be good for those with a more scientific bent...and YES, these 
antibiotics if used in too high a concentration cause total albinism in both 
Arisaema and Amorphophallus seedlings....unpublished observations from my 
own back-yard lab :o)  I personally never cared enough to do the appropriate 
concentration-response studies to see if I could select a variegated clone 
(for me, this was a simple curiosity thing as we had the antibiotics in my 
research laboratory anyway for totally different purposes) as I do not know 
why in the world anyone would want one in the first place.....but that is 
just me!


Dan Devor
Gibsonia, PA where we finally had our first frost last night :o)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Marcotrigiano" <mmarcotr@email.smith.edu>
To: <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Aroid-l] Varigated ZZ`s and more.

>I have a young variegated ZZ bought on ebay. Just a warning. It came with 
>two variegated young leaves. Since then the next three were green or 
>yellow, not variegated. This plant may be so unstable I'd think twice 
>before forking over big bucks for one.
> I use to work in a mutagenesis lab and there are nasty chemicals like 
> nitrosomethylurea that cause plastid mutations at high frequency when seed 
> is soaked in the solution. It is also in the top 5 known carcinogens so 
> I'd suggest anyone thinking of getting rich on new variegated plants by 
> using such chemicals, plan on having an oncologist nearby.
>>>> "Julius Boos" <ju-bo@msn.com> 10/28/2007 1:04 PM >>>
> From : Ken Mosher <ken@spatulacity.com>
> Reply-To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Sent : Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:19 PM
> To : Discussion of aroids <aroid-l@gizmoworks.com>
> Subject : Re: [Aroid-l] Forms of ZZ plant -thanks + a tissue culture
> question
> Dear Ken,
> Thanks for the info:, from what I`ve heard, there is "something" going on
> with this "varigated" kick, all sorts of plants are popping up in a
> varigated form.   A friend hinted to me that there is a process being used
> to induce this varigation in MANY plants, just recently I heard of a 
> couple
> plants of varigated Philodendron goeldii for sale in Asia, and even in 
> other
> plant families way too many varigated cultivars are turning up for it just
> to be by chance.
> Does anyone have any info. on this??
> The Best,
> Julius
>>>The very expensive Zamioculcas for sale at the IAS show was variegated.
> That's why it was $100. There were several rooted cuttings in each
> plastic sleeve and there were two available for sale.
> -Ken Mosher
> Julius Boos wrote:
>>Dear Adam,
>>Thanks for the kind words.   Remember, I only suggested (in another
> posting)
>>   that the Zamioculcas now commonly available because of tissue
> culture may
>>be modified and so be larger and more attractive 'selections' than the
> wild
>>'mother' plant might be.   As far as I know little data is availabe on
> these
>>Like you, I like to have at last one wild-collected plant which the
> tissue
>>cultured plants can be compared to!
>>There seem to be quite a few 'new' cultivars/selections which are said
> to
>>have been individuals selected and propagated from batches produced
> from
>>tissue culture.  Several Alocasias, Philodendrons, Caladiums, etc.
> come to
>>Michael Mahan reports that he saw cuttings of Zamioculcus for sale at
> the
>>IAS show for over $100.00, and others across the room, large potted
>>specimens, for $30.00.   I think that we can say that the cheaper ones
> were
>>the tissue-cultured specimens, I only wish I knew more about the story
>>behind the specimens which were being sold for expensive prices!
>>The Best,
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