Re: [aroid-l] A. kiusianus germination
- Subject: Re: [aroid-l] A. kiusianus germination
- From: "Harry Witmore" email@example.com
- Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 12:55:14 -0400
- Importance: Normal
Since I was the source of the seeds let me explain exactly why they were not
sent in berry. All I sent them to have already heard it but if you have
small children or even grandchildren (I got these), you will be interested.
I had quite a few if these berries, 60 I guess. I took about half for myself
and offered the rest to the group. I cleaned and soaked mine per Petra's
advice and left the rest to ripen in place.
I decided it was time to offer the rest because they all seemed ripe. I sent
out the note and got a great response. So, my plan was to go out Monday
morning and begin to send them out. I left them to be picked Monday.
Grandkids came over Sunday and played in the garden while I made supper.
I went out Monday to pick the berries. To my surprise they had all succumbed
to finger blight and were no where to be seen. As they day go brighter I
went back out and began scanning the ground for seeds, berries, anything I
could find. I began to locate seeds that had already been extracted from the
berries. I collected about 15 of these. The more I searched I began to find
a large number of berries buried in the ground close to the parent plant.
They were all intact and I saved these for the folks that wanted them
outside the US. I washed the others and packed them in sphagnum. I shipped
them out as soon as I got addresses.
They never had a chance to dry out since it had rained Sunday night. Turns
out the grandkids had so much fun with me planting 4 o'clock seeds they
decided to expand and these Amorph berries were too tempting and they
squeezed some out on the ground and the rest they dug a hole and 'planted'
So if you have young kids around make sure you protect yourself from this
kind of 'finger blight'.
Cloud Jungle Art
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Randy Story
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [aroid-l] A. kiusianus germination
Since Harry sent me three seeds, I have planted one without any treatment
and soaked the other two overnight, one in 100 ppm giberellic acid, the
other in distilled water. It sounds like it might be too late for the
soaking step, but maybe the seed will "think" it's just been through
seasonal heavy rains. Hopefully rot won't set in! I'll let you know if I
have any success.
I guess I'm just impatient and a even a few months seems like a long time.
I've learned to deal with dormancy of tubers, though. I think.
> We've all discussed this many times before, Randy, well, maybe moreso on
> arisaema-l list group than on aroid-l, but the water soak works just as
> with amorphs than it does with arisaemas. The key is collecting the
> as soon as they ripen and soaking them in water to break down the seed
> coat/inhibitors, and making sure the seeds are clean when sown. Seeds are
> sown inside in a propagation house here at PDN.
> Expect longer germination periods if the seeds/berries are sent to you,
> meaning, these are usually not as fresh and have already begun drying off.
> That's not a problem at all in most cases; most will germinate within a
> months or longer. Much easier to collect, soak, and clean them right away
> which you can do only if you have the plants in your own collection to
> Keep us posted on the germination methods you use...