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Re: Free Grow Lights from a non-traditional source

  • Subject: Re: [cg] Free Grow Lights from a non-traditional source
  • From: "Mike McGrath" MikeMcG@PTD.net
  • Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:11:11 -0500

one of the smallest fixtures (400 watt) wouldn't break the bank--the same as
burning five 60 watt bulbs; and it would light a full flat nicely, but even
one little guy gets real hot...
                                        ---McG
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: adam36055@aol.com
  To: MikeMcG@PTD.net ; Minifarms@aol.com ; community_garden@mallorn.com ;
cybergardens@treebranch.com
  Cc: Grow19@aol.com
  Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 10:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [cg] Free Grow Lights from a non-traditional source


  Mike,

  I figured it might be too good to be true - but is there any way to use one
bulb?  Or am I completely off base? I mean, if there were any way to break
down the systems to one, instead of banks of three or four lights?

  Drats! It's unfortunate when your "castle-in-the-sky" proves to be a chimera
- just like George Bush the lesser's Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

  With the current social service cuts passed in December ( with the tie vote
made by VP Cheney) we're gonna have to come up with some ways of getting seeds
up fast to feed even more hungry people. The cuts went across the board - all
to create more tax savings for folks in gated communities who drive by is all
in their SUVs - quickly.

  Please contact your local state representatives and congresspeople to see
how the impact of these cuts can be in any way counteracted and ameliorated.

  The one I love the most is how the Feds are now requiring more worked hours
for an Aid for Dependent Families check and simultaneously cutting job
training. Oh, and also cutting down on heating fuel subsidies for low income
Americans while the fuel companies are making record making profits.

  Lovely. And the Republicans are twisting the knife by saying, "No drilling
in the Arctic, well the poor will freeze."

  As a Jewish person, I spelled my Christian friends at a local soup kitchen -
it's amazing how fast the pantry walls get empty - even on Christmas.  And
this is a great year for selling imported cars and super premium vodkas with
pretty painted pictures of flowers on them.

  God Bless America - We dumb f'ers need it, and bad!

  Happy Boxing Day - And a Better New Year,

  Adam Honigman

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mike McGrath <MikeMcG@PTD.net>
  To: adam36055@aol.com; Minifarms@aol.com; community_garden@mallorn.com;
cybergardens@treebranch.com
  Cc: Grow19@aol.com
  Sent: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:39:22 -0500
  Subject: Re: [cg] Free Grow Lights from a non-traditional source


  Great idea, A--but alas even with such cleverly recycled items, there is no
free lunch---eh, seedlings.
    Real (high intensity) Gro lights ARE the Bee's Knees. I used them for
years when ORGANIC GARDENING exhibited in the Philly Flower Show--and Rodale
was paying my greenhouse bills. And thereby hangs the tale.
    The (astronomical) cost of running those multi hundred and thousand watt
powerhouses (without having a $200 an ounce product emerge to pay the bills)
is one huge drawback.
    The other is HEAT. Those suckers gave off so much I didn't need to
otherwise heat my greenhouse--just put a fan up there to circulate it down.
How hot are they? I have fond memories of steam pouring out the roof vent,
often open on a bitter January day.
    Thus it wouldn't be safe for the kiddos--and it might bankrupt the poor
school!
    ----Scrooge McG
  ----- Original Message ----- From: <adam36055@aol.com>
  To: <Minifarms@aol.com>; <community_garden@mallorn.com>;
<cybergardens@treebranch.com>
  Cc: <Grow19@aol.com>
  Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:17 PM
  Subject: [cg] Free Grow Lights from a non-traditional source

  > Judy,
  >
  > Had an idea - you are in Washington DC - and reaching out to local >
resources has always been what my spiel has been about. Lemonaide from >
Lemons, to wit....
  >
  > I'd send a pretty please note out to the Washington, DC Police, Maryland >
and Virginia state troopers and the Drug Enforcement Agency on your >
organization's letterhead, with clippings about also copying your local >
congressperson/observer - DC doesn't have home rule, right?
  >
  > The gist of the note, put in really dignified language would be, " Dear >
Fuzz - I represent a really, really nice educational/agricultural >
organization that teaches kids all kinds of drug-free good stuff about >
nature,flowers and agriculture.
  >
  > This is wintertime, and instead of getting high and pregnant as kids tend
> to do when left up to their own resources, I want to help fight the tide >
of gross immorality by teaching kids how to start good seeds (as oppposed > to
"bad seeds,") and plant stuff. ;)
  >
  > Could your heavily armed, kevlar vested folks, pretty please, not break >
those grow lights the next time they bust a subterranean marijuana >
greenhouse? Honest injun, we would use those grow lights, and trays, and > all
of that really great tubing and automatic watering devices to teach > kids to
grow food, flowers, and even help to fight hunger by having veggie > plants
started from seed this spring.
  >
  > Yes, Washington DC Police, Maryland State Troopers, and US Drug >
Enforcement Agency - we would write very nice letters to your governors, >
bosses, let ourselves be videotaped for New Agencies and all about the >
really nice thing you did by NOT breaking and shooting up those grow > lights,
but instead confiscating them and giving it to nice, deserving > taxpayers and
future urban farmers of America like us.
  >
  > Etc., etc.
  >
  > Now I know, Judy, you can write a perfectly earnest letter like this to >
these agencies and get a bite from one of them. The publicity value of a >
state trooper in a Smokey the Bear hat getting a basket full of marajuana >
grow light started tomatoes would be the best pr those folks have gotten > in
many a year.
  >
  > Regards,
  > Adam Honigman
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Minifarms@aol.com
  > To: community_garden@mallorn.com
  > Cc: Grow19@aol.com
  > Sent: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:27:33 EST
  > Subject: [cg] grow lights
  >
  >
  > Judy,
  >
  > Ours is a table top. If you do not understand this then call me
  > 806-744-8517.
  >
  > I made a box just a little longer than the shop light out of plywood. >
About
  > 12 inches wide. Sides were about 5 inches high. On each end I put a >
1"x2"
  > piece of wood about 30 inches high. Used screws to attach it.
  >
  > I drove a nail in the top of each 1x2. I put a piece of chain, little, >
from
  > each end of the light to the nail on top of the 1x2. I would raise the
  > light as the plants grew, using the links in the little chain. We keep >
the
  > light just above the plants.
  >
  > Use whatever thick plywood on hand. This works great and cost very >
little.
  > You could put two lights side by side and make the box wider if you need
  > more grow room.
  >
  > I suggest that you start seed as above, set the plants out in the garden
  > about 3 weeks before the last freeze date using walls-of-water. They >
work.
  > Hopefully, that will get things going well before school is out. I >
substitute
  > teach at a JrHi and trying to get a garden going there but had little >
luck.
  > The teacher most interested is working on a master's for the next year or
> so
  > and has little time.
  >
  > Ken Hargesheimer
  >
  >
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