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Re: Chemical opinions

  • Subject: Re: [ferns] Chemical opinions
  • From: "Mary Gorton" <mgorton@dca.net>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:41:03 -0800

Thanks for the info about Advantage and your cat, Betty.  

Mary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Betty Hamilton <bkhamilton@earthlink.net>
To: <ferns@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ferns] Chemical opinions


> So, I can't shut up.   This conversation, even if about toxicity and 
> stubborn pests is a vast improvement over the endless political 
> campaign just past.  So thanks to all!
> 
> I used Advantage on my cat for part of one year.  The label instructs 
> one to wear gloves when applying it, making me cringe and doubt it's 
> safety, for either of us.   So that does not bolster the argument for 
> indoor safety.  I still think treating plants outside is the safest 
> course, which is not much help where the temperatures are dropping day 
> by day toward winter!!!   Even a protected, ventilated porch or 
> sheltered corner by a foundation would be an improvement over indoors 
> for pesticide applications.  The bottom line is that these are all 
> toxic compounds, and you should restrict your exposure as much as 
> possible.  Like the arthritis drug recently pulled form the market, we 
> do not know what problems will turn up 3 or 10 years from now from 
> active agents, carriers or stabilizers.
> 
> Betty
> 
> 
> On Nov 13, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Mary Gorton wrote:
> 
> > Kyle,
> >
> > Here's another Di-Syston product
> > http://www.bayercropscienceus.com/products/view:di-syston/
> > I am trying to find out which would be least toxic to combat scale on 
> > my
> > ferns and Clivias indoors: Bonide Systemic Houseplant Granules, Bayer
> > Advanced Garden Tree and Shrub or Bayer Advanced Garden All-in-One 
> > Rose and
> > Flower Care Concentrate.
> > The other question I have is whether to use the Bayer products at the 
> > same
> > concentration for houseplants as for outdoor trees, shrubs, roses, and
> > flowers.
> > I believe that Imidacloprid (trade name Advantage) is also used as a
> > systemic to prevent fleas on dogs and cats - I am trying to cofirm 
> > that now.
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Kyle799706@aol.com>
> > To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:55 AM
> > Subject: [ferns] Chemical opinion - Attn: Mary
> >
> >
> >> Mary,
> >>   Th'x for the post...I've called two local nurseries and neither 
> >> product
> > is sold by them here in Maine that they're aware of....I'm going to do 
> > some
> > research as so far the disulfoton sounds rather scary and it puzzles 
> > me why
> > they don't list an REI?? With a Chemical class I and Code word of 
> > Danger I'd
> > assume this to be at least a 24 REI.....something I wouldn't handle or 
> > have
> > in a gh.
> >>   On the Imidocloprid the form we use is Marathon II, for control of
> > Thrips....which we have loads of ...we use it as soil integrated in 
> > hanging
> > baskets and large containers and anything being over wintered in the gh
> > thats heated...just applied it to some phormium in large containers 
> > that are
> > covered in spider mites....
> >> But let me do some more googleplexing and get back...and i'll go 
> >> through
> > my notes and papers from The New England Greenhouse Confrence last 
> > month in
> > Worcester, Mass.
> >>
> >>
> >> Th'x again
> >>
> >> KFB
> >>
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