Re: The First Zucchini; first tomato

Can't have too many peppers, Cyndi. When I told Ms Fatma that we have 10 poblanos nearing maturity, she asked "What are we going to do with all of them?" I said "I'm going to roast them, peel them, stuff them with a quinoa-based mixture, and eat them." 

On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:


I have grown Corno di Toro, they are very nice peppers and very
productive. I also like Giant Marconi, very similar to Corno di Toro but 
it's a hybrid and it's huge. Maybe a tad less sweet but it's hard to
say. Corno di Toro, with its curved shape, is more attractive.
I have about 10 Giant Marconi growing this year, I am hoping to can or
freeze a lot more roasted marinated peppers this summer. We have been
using last year's in our salads and they're so good. In all I think I
have over 50 pepper plants. So far so good on those but it's early days
yet, with luck I will be whining about too many peppers later this
summer.


Cyndi


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Behalf Of james singer
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 2:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini; first tomato

Know what you mean about water bills. We have a well, so ours turns up
on the electric bill--which is not as great an increase with usage, but
doubly worrisome in times of drought.
We've harvested a few jalapenos so far and one "Corno di Toro", which we picked green for a salad. You wouldn't believe how sweet it is even when 
it's green. Can't imagine what it'll be like when it turns red.
You should try this one, Pam. It's touted as the largest non-bell sweet
pepper. Its was introduced by Seeds of Change a few years ago and is
really a keeper. This year we have only one plant, but I want to be sure 
to plant a companion this fall.


On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Pam Evans wrote:


Harvested my first pepper today.  Only have two plants in pots up
front now since I converted their bed over to xeriscape out back.
However, I do much prefer 80 dollar water bills to 250 dollar water
bills.

On 6/8/07, james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:


Bonnie, Cyndi--Yes, two seasons, but we start the second one [October



planting] with new plants. Most tomatoes--with the exception of the
wild tomato--just peter out when it gets hot at night. The wild one
will produce heavily into mid summer before it dies off. We've tried
to hold regular tomato plants, both slicing and paste types, over,
but it doesn't work very well; they seem to lose vigor, have severe
die-back in the heat, and never quite recover. We've even tried
pruning them back... but the results were the same.

Have to admit, I've never tried it with cherry tomatoes, because
we've never grown them, but this year we have some in a hanging
basket, so I think I'll prune and monitor.

Peppers are different; they'll produce like crazy for 3-4 years with
only modest attention during their summer siesta. Our Turkish pepper
is into it's second year and is way more productive than it was last
year.
I started drying and grinding the little devils this year, and so far



have about 8 ounces of powder that will peel your head like an onion,



but makes great chili powder when diluted with sufficient paprika and



other spices [cumano, oregano, thyme, etc].


On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:


Do you not get two seasons of tomatoes?



[Original Message]
From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 6/8/2007 1:11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini; first tomato

Interesting, Bonnie, and... amusing. I just harvested my last
tomato of the season.


On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:


I have just harvested the first of my soft-neck garlic...large and



nice flavor.  Also, have my first tomato of the season.

Speaking of National Geographic, you might want to see "A Passion
for Order", June 2007 issue on Linnaeus.



[Original Message]
From: Zemuly Sanders <zemuly@comcast.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Date: 6/7/2007 9:10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini

That was very interesting, Daryl.  Thanks to your observations in



your

posts

I've been particularly aware of bees and other small pollinators
in my

yard.

So far there seem to be right many of them.  I learned from the
May issue

of

National Geographic that the European honeybees were brought here



by the English colonists so they could have mead.  The bees'
ability to be nondiscriminating in their pollination has enabled
us to have many fruits and vegetables that would otherwise be
unavailable.
zem
zone 7
West TN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini



I used to have so many honeybees that I couldn't walk across the



lawn barefoot when the clover was blooming, and the dogs were
often stung.

The

hum in my apple trees, or in the holly outside my window was
audible

from

several feet away. I'd listen to it as I worked with the windows



open.

The tracheal and varroa mites took their toll on honeybees here
over

the

years, but the other pollinators increased. This year, we had
plenty of Carpenter Bees, but not many Bumbles or Masons, and I
have seen only
2
honeybees -one honeybee in April and one last week. Whatever the



cause

of

CCD (besides big ag trying to push hives to the limit), there's

something

else going on with the other pollinators here, too.  I'm hoping
it's a fluke of the weather, but - no apples, no holly berries
here, and that

was

before the big freeze.

By the way, this website has some good no-nonsense stuff about
the

bees,

for those who are interested.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mvanishingbees.htm

d



----- Original Message -----
From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini



About bees.

I have a friend who is a bee researcher at LSU. He says he's
involved

in

investigating CCD. He says the reports of 60-70 percent swarm
disappearance are media nonsense and not supported by the

facts.

He

says

"normal" swarm disappearance is 20-40 percent, and he suspects
most of that is caused by beekeepers moving their hives a lot.
He says moving hives, while profitable for beekeepers, is very
stressful for bees.
He
also adds that the Einstein quote about bee disappearance
leading to

the

end of the food chain was probably not said by Einstein and, at



any

rate,

shows enormous ignorance about the "messy" science of biology.


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