Re: The First Zucchini; first tomato

LOL - yes Jim I will try that next year, since I only have room for two
plants now.  thanks.

On 6/8/07, james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Can't have too many peppers, Cyndi. When I told Ms Fatma that we have
> 10 poblanos nearing maturity, she asked "What are we going to do with
> all of them?" I said "I'm going to roast them, peel them, stuff them
> with a quinoa-based mixture, and eat them."
>
> On Jun 8, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Johnson Cyndi D Civ 95 CG/SCSRT wrote:
>
> > I have grown Corno di Toro, they are very nice peppers and very
> > productive. I also like Giant Marconi, very similar to Corno di Toro
> > but
> > it's a hybrid and it's huge. Maybe a tad less sweet but it's hard to
> > say. Corno di Toro, with its curved shape, is more attractive.
> > I have about 10 Giant Marconi growing this year, I am hoping to can or
> > freeze a lot more roasted marinated peppers this summer. We have been
> > using last year's in our salads and they're so good. In all I think I
> > have over 50 pepper plants. So far so good on those but it's early days
> > yet, with luck I will be whining about too many peppers later this
> > summer.
> >
> >
> > Cyndi
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > Behalf Of james singer
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 2:37 PM
> > To: gardenchat@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini; first tomato
> >
> > Know what you mean about water bills. We have a well, so ours turns up
> > on the electric bill--which is not as great an increase with usage, but
> > doubly worrisome in times of drought.
> >
> > We've harvested a few jalapenos so far and one "Corno di Toro", which
> > we
> > picked green for a salad. You wouldn't believe how sweet it is even
> > when
> > it's green. Can't imagine what it'll be like when it turns red.
> > You should try this one, Pam. It's touted as the largest non-bell sweet
> > pepper. Its was introduced by Seeds of Change a few years ago and is
> > really a keeper. This year we have only one plant, but I want to be
> > sure
> > to plant a companion this fall.
> >
> >
> > On Jun 8, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Pam Evans wrote:
> >
> >> Harvested my first pepper today.  Only have two plants in pots up
> >> front now since I converted their bed over to xeriscape out back.
> >> However, I do much prefer 80 dollar water bills to 250 dollar water
> >> bills.
> >>
> >> On 6/8/07, james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Bonnie, Cyndi--Yes, two seasons, but we start the second one [October
> >
> >>> planting] with new plants. Most tomatoes--with the exception of the
> >>> wild tomato--just peter out when it gets hot at night. The wild one
> >>> will produce heavily into mid summer before it dies off. We've tried
> >>> to hold regular tomato plants, both slicing and paste types, over,
> >>> but it doesn't work very well; they seem to lose vigor, have severe
> >>> die-back in the heat, and never quite recover. We've even tried
> >>> pruning them back... but the results were the same.
> >>>
> >>> Have to admit, I've never tried it with cherry tomatoes, because
> >>> we've never grown them, but this year we have some in a hanging
> >>> basket, so I think I'll prune and monitor.
> >>>
> >>> Peppers are different; they'll produce like crazy for 3-4 years with
> >>> only modest attention during their summer siesta. Our Turkish pepper
> >>> is into it's second year and is way more productive than it was last
> >>> year.
> >>> I started drying and grinding the little devils this year, and so far
> >
> >>> have about 8 ounces of powder that will peel your head like an onion,
> >
> >>> but makes great chili powder when diluted with sufficient paprika and
> >
> >>> other spices [cumano, oregano, thyme, etc].
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 8, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Do you not get two seasons of tomatoes?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>> From: james singer <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>> Date: 6/8/2007 1:11:41 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini; first tomato
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Interesting, Bonnie, and... amusing. I just harvested my last
> >>>>> tomato of the season.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 8, 2007, at 10:06 AM, Bonnie Holmes wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I have just harvested the first of my soft-neck garlic...large and
> >
> >>>>>> nice flavor.  Also, have my first tomato of the season.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Speaking of National Geographic, you might want to see "A Passion
> >>>>>> for Order", June 2007 issue on Linnaeus.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [Original Message]
> >>>>>>> From: Zemuly Sanders <zemuly@comcast.net>
> >>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>> Date: 6/7/2007 9:10:14 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That was very interesting, Daryl.  Thanks to your observations in
> >
> >>>>>>> your
> >>>>>> posts
> >>>>>>> I've been particularly aware of bees and other small pollinators
> >>>>>>> in my
> >>>>>> yard.
> >>>>>>> So far there seem to be right many of them.  I learned from the
> >>>>>>> May issue
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> National Geographic that the European honeybees were brought here
> >
> >>>>>>> by the English colonists so they could have mead.  The bees'
> >>>>>>> ability to be nondiscriminating in their pollination has enabled
> >>>>>>> us to have many fruits and vegetables that would otherwise be
> >>>>>>> unavailable.
> >>>>>>> zem
> >>>>>>> zone 7
> >>>>>>> West TN
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Daryl" <pulis@mindspring.com>
> >>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:12 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I used to have so many honeybees that I couldn't walk across the
> >
> >>>>>>>> lawn barefoot when the clover was blooming, and the dogs were
> >>>>>>>> often stung.
> >>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>> hum in my apple trees, or in the holly outside my window was
> >>>>>>>> audible
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>> several feet away. I'd listen to it as I worked with the windows
> >
> >>>>>>>> open.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The tracheal and varroa mites took their toll on honeybees here
> >>>>>>>> over
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> years, but the other pollinators increased. This year, we had
> >>>>>>>> plenty of Carpenter Bees, but not many Bumbles or Masons, and I
> >>>>>>>> have seen only
> >>>>>>>> 2
> >>>>>>>> honeybees -one honeybee in April and one last week. Whatever the
> >
> >>>>>>>> cause
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> CCD (besides big ag trying to push hives to the limit), there's
> >>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>> else going on with the other pollinators here, too.  I'm hoping
> >>>>>>>> it's a fluke of the weather, but - no apples, no holly berries
> >>>>>>>> here, and that
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>> before the big freeze.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> By the way, this website has some good no-nonsense stuff about
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>> bees,
> >>>>>>>> for those who are interested.
> >>>>>>>> http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mvanishingbees.htm
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> d
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>> From: "james singer" <islandjim1@verizon.net>
> >>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:44 PM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] The First Zucchini
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> About bees.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have a friend who is a bee researcher at LSU. He says he's
> >>>>>>>>> involved
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> investigating CCD. He says the reports of 60-70 percent swarm
> >>>>>>>>> disappearance are media nonsense and not supported by the
> > facts.
> >>>>>>>>> He
> >>>>>> says
> >>>>>>>>> "normal" swarm disappearance is 20-40 percent, and he suspects
> >>>>>>>>> most of that is caused by beekeepers moving their hives a lot.
> >>>>>>>>> He says moving hives, while profitable for beekeepers, is very
> >>>>>>>>> stressful for bees.
> >>>>>>>>> He
> >>>>>>>>> also adds that the Einstein quote about bee disappearance
> >>>>>>>>> leading to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> end of the food chain was probably not said by Einstein and, at
> >
> >>>>>>>>> any
> >>>>>> rate,
> >>>>>>>>> shows enormous ignorance about the "messy" science of biology.
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>> Island Jim
> >>>>> Southwest Florida
> >>>>> 27.1 N, 82.4 W
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Pam Evans
> >> Kemp TX
> >> zone 8A
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Pam Evans
Kemp TX
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