RE: pruning cuts

Hi Jim,

Martha's sprung, you otta give her a jingle.  I'm sure she's dying to help.

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From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On
Behalf Of james singer
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:48 PM
To: gardenchat@hort.net
Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts


I use a bypass with an offset lever, which accomplishes the same thing  
a ratchet does--creates extra leverage. This lopper is actually a  
Martha Stewart special that I found at Kmart about 5 years ago. It's  
all metal, which is the main reason I decided to try it. I had just  
broken one of the wooden handles on a Corona. And it has been  
excellent. I wish I knew who really made it; I'd look for more of their  
tools.

On Tuesday, March 8, 2005, at 01:03 PM, Fort Wayne, IN wrote:

> Ratchet can be easier for those of us with less upper body strength,  
> carpal
> tunnel syndrome, etc.  It makes the cut in increments, increasing  
> torque or
> something like that.  Not necessary, but nice.  I think most gardeners
> prefer bypass to anvil.  The anvil type can tend to mash the wood.
> Kitty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts
>
>
>> My loppers are bypass, but not ratchet. Are rachet loppers a better
>> choice?
>> Cathy
>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Fort Wayne, IN wrote:
>>
>>> Cathy,
>>> Are your loppers anvil or bypass?  Ratchet?
>>> I use an old ratchet bypass lopper, never sharpened, that still seems
>>> to cut
>>> cleanly. Don't try to cut anything larger than it can handle.  If
>>> there is a
>>> little bit of stripping  left on the removed side, I clean it up with
>>> pruners. I haven't had that happen on the attached side.
>>> Sometimes I cheat and do use my loppers on something larger than I
>>> should.
>>> In that case, I cut only so far, then flip the loppers over, or move
>>> myself
>>> to a different angle. I position the loppers in the same grooves made
>>> from
>>> the previous cut, but now the blade is in a new area.  I may only
>>> reposition
>>> once, sometimes 2 or 3 times.  I know - I should go get the saw, but
>>> I'm
>>> kind of lazy that way.  But I do seem to still get a clean cut.
>>>
>>> Kitty
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cathy Carpenter" <cathy.c@insightbb.com>
>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning cuts
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a problem with loppers - they never seem to cut cleanly for  
>>>> me
>>>> (even when brand new), so end up with the same tearing of the lower
>>>> edge of the cut that would happen if I attempted to saw through
>>>> without
>>>> making three cuts. Any helpful hints?
>>>> Cathy, west central IL, z5b
>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2005, at 03:47 PM, james singer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Me too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except it depends on the diameter of the limb. If I can get my
>>>>> loppers
>>>>> around it, I usually make it in one cut. If it's a job for the bow
>>>>> saw
>>>>> or the pole saw, then it's a series of cuts.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 7, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Fort Wayne, IN wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm cutting a long limb, I cut it off about a foot out from  
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> the cut
>>>>>> should be made to get rid of the weight.  Then I go in and make  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> actual 3
>>>>>> required cuts.
>>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: owner-gardenchat@hort.net  
>>>>>> [o*@hort.net]On
>>>>>> Behalf Of pdickson
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:46 AM
>>>>>> To: gardenchat@hort.net
>>>>>> Subject: [CHAT] pruning cuts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see so many people that don't make the cut at the right place on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> collar.  He talked a lot about how that long piece will have to  
>>>>>> rot
>>>>>> down and
>>>>>> when it gets going that sometimes it doesn't stop at the collar...
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> keeps on rotting until it kills the tree.
>>>>>> Another big point is to ALWAYS make several cuts to complete one
>>>>>> cut.
>>>>>>  Start
>>>>>> with a little cut from underneath... so that when you cut from the
>>>>>> top the
>>>>>> weight won't drop the limb and pull a strip off the tree from
>>>>>> underneath.
>>>>>> Lots of good information that I am remembering in spurts!
>>>>>> Tricia
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:23 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning question
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> one thing mentioned in the pruning talk here was that narrow
>>>>>>> crotches
>>>>>>> collect more debris.  More material sits in the crotch and rots.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kitty
>>>>>>> neIN, Z5
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "pdickson" <pdickson@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:23 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CHAT] pruning question
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>>>> One tip that has stuck with me from a pruning talk is to hold up
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> hand,
>>>>>>>> then bend down the little finger and the ring finger.  Now the 3
>>>>>>>> fingers
>>>>>>>> left are your tool to know which is the strong and the weak  
>>>>>>>> crotch
>>>>>>>> angle.
>>>>>>>> The thumb and the first finger represent a good strong angle.   
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> pointer
>>>>>>>> finger and the middle finger represent a weak angle.  He gave  
>>>>>>>> lots
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> reasons why that is so... like the first one has more room for
>>>>>>>> cells...
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> really all I retained is which one is a good angle and which one
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> try to prune out.
>>>>>>>> I hope that made sense!
>>>>>>>> Tricia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Donna" <gossiper@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:37 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CHAT] pruning question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well grab your favorite pruning shears and come on down :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL! If you think that tree needs pruning, you should see  
>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>> one!
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> seriously thinking of digging it out and trashing it since it  
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> small tree. A storm last year about took it out. It lost so  
>>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> branches
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> should have put it out of it's misery then.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pruning is one of my favorite garden chores.
>>>>>>>>>>     Ceres
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Island Jim
>>>>> Southwest Florida
>>>>> 27.0 N, 82.4 W
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