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Re: Re: dragonwing

Actually, the stone potting shed was designed and built by another MG.  Very
nice.  The floor of 1/2 of it is several feet below ground.  Windows east
and west and (I think) one in the roof. According to this MG, the hort ed
did say it would be good for overwintering some things, but I'm sure he
didn't mean begonias.

I relayed to her what I'd found out and she's not interested.  We'll
probably be buying new ones next year.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marge Talt" <mtalt@hort.net>
To: <gardenchat@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [CHAT] Re: dragonwing

> I think you're probably right, Kitty.  I have also found that really
> good information about tender perennials sold as annuals in the US is
> hard to find; they're just considered throw-away plants.  I've found
> that most of them can be wintered over in my cool greenhouse, tho'.
> Some don't like it as it's too cool for them but a great many make it
> to live another year or more.  (Think I may have mentioned I have a
> pale pink Impatien that's lived in my night blooming Cereus pot
> (wintered in our 60F bedroom) for some 6 years - blooms all year).  I
> was trying to find a more botany type site that might give some idea
> of provenance and from that one could tell a bit more; didn't find:-(
> I've been growing angle wings and rhizomatous begonias for about 30
> years as houseplants that summer outside and winter inside - the same
> plants (all are old).  I do NOT believe they will survive a
> temperature of -20F - they won't even survive 20F.  They are
> distinctly unhappy when temperatures dip toward 32F outside and I
> have not gotten them in for winter - covered with Remay or not.  They
> survive that because I do cover them and they are under a roof and I
> leave the walk overhead lights on (which raises temperature just a
> tiny bit and can make the difference.)  However, if your MG friend
> wants those plants, I would certainly advise her to bring them in the
> house for winter in your climate.  They are not hardy perennials:-)
> Not only that, but angel wings need light or they will not be happy
> campers.  Not direct sun, but good light.  That stone shed doesn't
> exactly sound like it has any light, either.
> Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> mtalt@hort.net
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> > From: Kitty <kmrsy@comcast.net>
> > Marge, Jim, and Daryl,
> > Thanks for your help.  The reason, I believe, there is little to no
> info on
> > temp out there is because these plants are generally grown as
> annuals.  Pan
> > American, I'm sure, would prefer that you buy new ones every year.
> But I'm
> > a great believer in giving some tender perennials a second chance.
> 2
> > reasons - a) some are not cheap and b) some can put on a more
> spectacular
> > show the second year.
> >
> > We've been encouraging our MGs in the individual display gardens to
> at least
> > try to overwinter some of these plants.  Some, like Persian Shield
> > (Strobilanthes) get too woody and don't look nice the second year,
> but
> > cuttings taken from them and carried over are easy and perform
> > exceptionately well.  Others, like the begonias can overwinter in a
> cool
> > resting stage or as houseplants.  However, one of our MGs who
> overwintered
> > DW begonias at home last year stated that she was leaving them in a
> cold
> > stone shed overwinter this year.  We get down to 20 below zero here
> every
> > year, usually only for a few days, but last year it went on for a
> straight 3
> > weeks.  I just don't think it's a good idea, but I was hoping to
> find
> > something more convincing to tell her than my gut feelings.
> >
> > Kitty
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