Hello right back at all of you I for one am glad to be getting mail again from the rose list I have missed all of the mail I live in SE wisconsin and have asked several questions of the rose and have gotten no answers perhaps some of you can help me I am looking to identify the roses I have in my garden I did not keep the names of them when I bought them onw in perticular intrigues me it is a miniature white rose bush with no thorns and no scent but it produced one beautiful flower in it's first year of planting does anyone have any clue what this rose might be ???? I also have what I belive are rambling roses the ones in the back yard are pick with a fabulous scent that you can smell from twenty feet away and the one in the front yard is a deep red with a very mild scent they bloom only once a year in the late spring but they are huge they grow to the size of the house I cut the canes down in the fall and by spring time they always come back ( just like weeds) they require little care. I would like to know if anyone has anyideas about these roses anything like their names .. or care that they could need that I do not know about. I also have three other rose bushes one is called "love" and the other two I have no idea what they are one is a yellow rose with waxy dark green leaves and the other is a pink rose with light green leaves I know they are not hybrid teas because the flowers are too small but they are bigger than miniature roses. also any ideas on what to do about our upcoming winter other than cut and cover??? thanks so much ( by the way keith I do not think you were whining!! I have been overwhelmed my self what with the kids and fall planting I also have a bulb garden so do not feel bad by the way are you In Madison WI?? ) thanks everyone SUE RO>Well it is getting cold and I would like to do the correct maintenance RO>plan for my roses. What do you recommend? I live in zone 8. RO>Should I remove the rose mailing list due to lack of activity? RO>-- RO>Why buy plants when you can grow them yourself.....?