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Re: HYB: Marking Pods

  • Subject: Re: HYB: Marking Pods
  • From: Autmirislvr@aol.com
  • Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:22:55 -0400

I've a notebook titled "Field 2008." I carry it with me throughout
bloom season.

Each cross is numbered and noted in the book. I record the position of
the blooms used in the cross.

When I make a second cross on the same stalk it is distinguished by the
cross # and also by the position of the bloom--

pt=primary terminal.
st=secondary terminal, etc.
3t=third terminal (rarely attempted)

Here is two different crosses on the same stalk. Both tags were on the

First, Cross # 12 was 2155-01 X 2142-01 after rain, pt. (05/14/)
Later, I made cross #47. 2155-01 x 1708-02. 1st branch, last bloom.

If a pod sets this type of notes tells me exactly what I have. Then
I put a check mark above the pod parent information and another to by
the position information.

My tags are put through the laundry and reused.

<<The only time that this gets complicated is if you want to pollinate
the same stalk with different blooms and parents. >>

Betty Wilkerson

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Hunt <nakihee@gmail.com>
To: iris-photos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 6:41 pm
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] HYB: Marking Pods

That's an interesting technique.  I have lost many a tag also, so a
couple of years ago, I started carrying a marker with me when I
pollinate.  I write the pollen parent name on the stalk of the pod
parent.  This has been fail proof since I started it and no more tags
to carry around!  The only time that this gets complicated is if you
want to pollinate the same stalk with different blooms and parents. 
Then you have to write the name right under the bloom for each cross. 
Instead of pulling just the pod, I pull the stalk and then take them in
to finish up!  Works like a charm.
Linda in Lascassas

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:28 PM, christian foster
<flatnflashy@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hey gang, here's a tip if anyone's interested.


Sometimes the cross tag gets seperated from the pod before the pod
matures.  My notebook will show the cross, there's a pod (or several
pods) on the stalk, but there's no cross tag.  This is what I've been
doing to combat loss of ID when the tag disappears.  It's also a good
way to indicate bee pods I've already spotted.


After bloom season, when I'm going through the withdrawls, I start
collecting the tags from the failed crosses.  As I'm doing that I make
a notation right in the cross notes that a pod has formed, and "etch"
the cross number onto the pod itself with a pen.


The idea is to scar the flesh of the pod so that you have a clearly
legible number even.  In order to do this you have to break the "onion
skin" outter layer of the pod and cut the "juicy" inner part.  You want
the mark to "bleed" a little water.


So far the best pen is a "fine" point- like an RSVP.  I've also used, a
fine point Sharpie, a medium point ball pen, the corner of one of the
cross tags I picked up that day, and a fingernail.  Obviously, the
fingernail is tricky.  The medium point pen tends to bunch the flesh
which leads to a less crisp marking.  The fine point sharpie was easier
to use, but didn't damage the skin enough to create scarring- it still
leaves a nice impression.


Naturally, you want to have a second pen on hand if you intend to do
any writing- that or plenty of paper and patience- since the pod flesh
will clog the pen point.


The first shot is a freshly marked "bee" pod on Returning Chameleon-
this one all I had was a fingernail.  The second shot is the goal, a
highly legible mark that isn't going to get seperated from the pod.


I know I've mentioned this before... but visuals are always nice.



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