Re: TB 'Horned Amethyst' ?
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  • Subject: Re: TB 'Horned Amethyst' ?
  • From: C* <c*@speednetllc.com>
  • Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:31:46 -0400

 

Hey, that helps me!  I did not know about the color & pattern classification.  (shows my youth! haha!)  


A "self" must have a self-colored beard, then.  One photo in the wiki has a plicata patterning.  The other photo has a BRIGHT yellow beard and haft with greyed standards.

Then would both photos of it in the Wiki be mis-identified?!  (Please, no offense intended to anyone.... I certainly know how hard it is to keep track of historic iris, especially when the hybridizer isn't around to refer to!)

Thanks, Chuck.

By the way, your method for seed germination has scored again.  Last year I had to have had more than 75%.  I just started my second year using it.  It has become my first choice for starting my seedlings.

Adam~

On Mar 16, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Chapman wrote:

 

It would be an amethyst self. that is all amethyst, solid colour .

A classification of colour and pattern was used up to 1969 checklist
compilation. not used after that.

The colour classification is V1, a self. Plicatas are colour class 2.
So V2 would be a plicata with amethyst/violet patterning.

Bitones are 3, bicolours 4 and blends 5. The V stands for Violet and
shades of it such as amethyst.

Chuck Chapman

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From: Cordesview <c*@speednetllc.com>
To: iris-photos <i*@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 9:59 am
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] TB 'Horned Amethyst' ?

 
Wow, that's tricky.

The description (following) doesn't say if it's in the plicata pattern
or not.  All it says is "Amethyst self".  There isn't even a color of
the beard or appendage. 

I'd put a request out to the HIPS group, to see if they have a
definitive answer.  (Sorry, but I really can't say which one is
correct!)

Adam~

'Horned Amethyst' (Lloyd Austin, R. 1959). Sdlg. J-La-40. TB, 36" (91
cm), M. Color Class-V1, Amethyst self, horned beard. Sdlg. X 'Pink
Tower'. Rainbow 1960. 

On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:47 AM, Paul wrote:
 
I googled some pictures for 'Horned Amethyst'. Only one, from Bluebird
Haven, resembles the decription, a self. The others (4) are all
plicatas.

So which is correct?




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