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  • Subject: Re: [iris-photos] VIRUSES
  • From: "Patrick Orr" <irisdude@msn.com>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:46:25 -0700
  • Seal-send-time: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 10:46:25 -0700

lol!  Cathy, you are probably not the only one feeling this way. 
Not being a network admin, I forget about thread volumes and such, and you are right, there is a better venue than this. To store VIR messages would be taking up room more suited for irises.
I see your point!  I want to keep this forum and not overextend it anymore than it is.
Thank you!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [iris-photos] VIRUSES

I hear your opinion on this and have to disagree - STRONGLY!
This is not the appropriate venue for this type of discussion. If there
were no other place you could get this info, then maybe. But mostly not.
This list and even the iris list which is more suited to a discussion
type of posting, have days that are high volume with threads that many
members might not be interested in. This would exacerbate the problem.

You always have the option to join a list that expressly gives advance
warnings of viruses or worms or a general chat list or a computer
platform specific list or subscribe to your anti-virus provider's list.
But please, not here.

As a network admin, I already have to live, eat, breathe and sleep this
stuff. Put posts about viruses on what is supposed to be a iris list in
pursuit of photos and discussions related to iris, and well, it's
supposed to be fun and interesting - NOT WORK. I would hate to vote with
my feet...


Patrick Orr wrote:

> I would like to see a subject tag VIR to be added for Virus Messages
> being posted to Iris-Talk/Iris-Photos. Obviously, these messages are
> important to some people.  With a subject tag, they can be filtered.

> I feel the virus alerts on iris-talk have value in the fact that they
> alert us when things do show up, they gently remind us to update our
> virus definitions if we have been procrastinating, and they confirm
> that we are not the only ones who get them.

> New viruses are created every day, and occasionally, I have been
> victim of a virus that was so new neither Norton or McAffee knew about
> it.  This happened just a while ago with a Bagel virus that really
> played havoc on my system.  I got the virus a couple of days before
> McAfee and Norton had a solution for it.

> (This is one of the main reasons I detest chain letters, or anything
> that is FW:fw:fw:fw, etc.  Chain letters and the like are a hackers
> best method for distributing a /newly/ created virus that your
> Antivirus software doesn't know about yet.)

> It has been made quite clear in the past that everyone should have the
> most recent, current, and updated virus program possible, but the
> reality of the situation is that not everyone is as technically
> minded, nor does everyone wish to have their computer set to automatic
> for updates.

> In addition to that, it has been reported recently, that some
> (granted, very rare instances) viruses, worms, and/or trojans /have/
> been getting through some antivirus programs, even when they are
> completely updated and aware of them. Hackers are getting more
> creative with their viruses every day.

> Respectfully submitted as something to consider,
> Patrick Orr
> Phoenix, AZ  Zone 9

> John Jones wrote:

> >If you have questions or concerns email me privately, but please do
> not post messages to the list alerting >people to a virused message.
> If they don't have a virus checker, it is too late because they
> already received >the infected message.
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