Tom;
I will go on record as to say the 10ft rule for
species is Hogwash.
If people had applied the 10ft rule to every
registration we would be practically nowhere today
when it comes to advancement of form. Historically
most change has occurred in small increments. If you
do have a sudden breakthough it would be considered by
some as not enough like the species so you can't win
on this argument. Most definitely these should be
registered and introduced so that others may see what
you have and work with it in the future. To date no
one has registered anything like these although I have
seen seedlings that were somewhat similar appear
before. Because they were never registered they
dissappeared. Hybridizers of species that wait to get
something spectacularly different are doomed to never
register anything. Progress comes in small steps and
without the record of registration the process is lost
except for that hybridizer.
What I am advocating is especially true for species.
After hybrids are worked with for many generations
like the tall beardeds and have built a repository of
registered names then we might expect faster progress.
The 10 foot rule might be acceptable today for the
current TBs but is totally unrealistic for species.
PLEASE register. Now that we have 30,000 TB cultivars
the 10ft rule may have some validity but not when you
have 2 registered Tectorums.
Bob Pries
--- thomas silvers <tesilvers@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks Bob, Judy and Jim! I wasn't sure how these
> would be received -- if people might think they were
> a
> move in the direction of having less "grace" (less
> species-like form).
>
> Bob, I hadn't thought that these were different
> enough
> yet to register. I would like there to be enough
> difference from others, that there would never be
> any
> question about identity -- I think someone called it
> the 10 foot rule (you should know an iris from 10
> foot
> a way or it isn't unique enough). But still, I'll
> keep
> registration in the back of my mind as I note how
> these perform in the garden. And I'm already
> swapping
> pollen back and forth between them, so maybe another
> generation will bring even more significant
> differences.
>
> Judy, I'm probably most partial to the dark one. But
> the white is really close behind. Actually the
> whites
> I started with were always quite a bit smaller than
> the blue/purples, so a larger white was something I
> had been expecting/hoping for. This one was the only
> white that didn't also get the genes for small size.
> So, maybe I should appreciate it more.
>
> Jim, these came from a group of about 3 dozen or so
> (I
> never did count them). I'll bet a larger group would
> have had even better ones in it. And I'll certainly
> be
> trying to get that overlapping form combined with
> the
> other color variations. As for a pink one, no luck
> with that yet! Greg McCullough (of Iris City
> Gardens)
> has been "requesting" that from me, for years now
> ;0)
> I think Iris tectorum is probably his favorite.
> Maybe
> by crossing in the two SIGNA collected tectorums,
> I'll
> get that elusive pink. I'll definitely be keeping my
> eye out for any tendency in that direction.
>
> Thanks again guys. Best wishes, Tom
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------
>
>
> Bob Pries wrote: Tom; These are exactly the type of
> selections that we had in mind when we created the
> Founders of SIGNA medal. They may not be hugely
> different but they have enough improvement that they
> certainly would be a desired form for a garden.
> These
> type of plants have appeared in the pst but because
> they were never noted or named and registered they
> went unnoticed and dissappeared. Thank you for
> pursuing these selections.
> ---------------------------
> Judy Hunt wrote: Pretty, Thomas! Love the white,
> especially, but then I like white flowers in
> general.
> ---------------------------
> Jim Murrain wrote: Way cool, Thomas, how many
> seedlings did you have to grow to get these? The
> overlapping forms are very nice. Do you think you
> can
> work on the dark one to improve it's form? The color
> is great! Now, where is the pink one? ; )
>
>
>
>
>
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