Re: Re: SPEC-X


 

Dennis,

now you're being silly!  Such a hybrid can never compete in a TB class and the TB enthusiasts would simply comment, 'pretty for such a primitive thing!' and then turn to the next ruffled dinner plate and ooh and ahh.  I understand you wanting a truly acknowledged primitve/species  bred category, but we don't seem to have one in the AIS, or do you have special show categories in the States for such hybrids?  The few shows I visit always disappoint me in the lack of acknowledgment less that 'current fashion' works receive.  I think we are all in agreement, here, otherwise most of us wouldn't be SIGNA members.  I would prefer to see truly groundbreaking work being shown and awarded, but I don't find pushing cultivars such as Dolce into no mans land appropriate.  This is, also, not fair (but then, life is not fair, now, is it?)  If we must have awards, I would prefer to see more sub-categories noted, defined and awarded.  I tried this with Hemerocallis in Europe, but few gardeners/hybridizers seem to be interested.  They prefer jumping onto the already rolling band wagon and btchn about the rules, instead of thinking outside of the envelope.  This was a lesson to me; you can give a gardener fertilizer, but you can't make him spread it about or people don't mind change, as long as everything stay the same.  (mixed metaphor?)

Jamie

PS: do stick to your definition, I don't want to sway you.  It is important that such views are considered and someone carries their torch.

Am 26.11.2010 15:01, schrieb Dennis Kramb:

Are you serious?!??  I just fell out of my chair laughing!

How is that SPEC-X and not TB???  Wow.  Just, wow.

Coming soon to an AIS near you... arilbreds registered as Louisianas!  Reticulatas registered as tall beardeds!  Hahahaha...

Sorry AIS folks, but your definitions & rules are incomprehensible to me and I've been an iris enthusiast for a while now!  Y'all might want to consider renaming this category.  Seriously, .....

I'm sticking with my own definition of SPEC-X.  Sorry, Dolce, but you're a TB.

Dennis in Cincinnati



On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Chuck Chapman <i*@aim.com> wrote:
DOLCE
(Paul Black, R. 2002) Sdlg. I290C. SPEC-X, 34" (86 cm), EM
S. and style arms pastel pink; F. pinkish ivory, narrow pale pink band; beards medium tangerine; small-flowered; slight spicy fragrance. F175BB: (Northern Jewel x 91196A: (8864B: ((Navy Waves x Bride's Halo) x sib) x C. Palmer aphylla sdlg.)) X B194C: (Abridged Version x 91135D: ((Centerfold x Wings of Dreams) x Birthday Gift)). Mid-America 2003. HM 2005, AM 2007, Ran-P 2009.

In this cross  you  have aphylla as a grandparent, and even then it is a selected seedling. So great grandchild of a species.  I would think there is some argument for excluding this sort of cultivar from  SPEC-X.



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Jamie V.

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