Re: TB:CONFEDERATE CAVALIER



--- wmoores <wmoores@watervalley.net> wrote:
> I have been watching a stalk of CC for several days now,
> thinking 
> this one might be ready for the show on Saturday.  Two
> opened this 
> morning and all beards have horns.  I didn't remember
> this feature 
> being mentioned in the description when I ordered it.  I
> raced back 
> into the house to get the R & I's to check this out.  No
> horns are 
> mentioned in the description, but in in checking the
> parentage, there 
> is MOONLIT, one of Monty Byer's horned introductions.
> 
> This is really a beautiful stalks and the flowers are
> very nice.  
> But, if horns are not mentioned in the description, is it
> a flaw  to 
> have them?.  Having horns when it isn't supposed to,
> isn't that like 
> drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa?
> 
> 
> Walter Moores
> Enid Lake, MS USA 7/8
>  
> 
--- John Bruce <jbruce@infinet.com> wrote:
> 
> > Having horns when it isn't supposed to, isn't that like
> 
> > drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa?

> John Bruce says:
> 
> Walter--
> 
> I don't think you would get arrested, prosecuted, fined,
> and do
> jail time for having horns on your iris <G>.
> 
> I am not a judge, but from what I have seen in my limited
> experience
> at shows, it will probably depend on the judge.  Assuming
> that it is 
> indeed CC,  I wouldn't think you could be marked against
> for how it
> was grown--culture having little to do with appendages.
> On the other 
> hand, stalks are judged by what is typical for that
> particular cultivar....
> 
> John Bruce
> 
> 
   V. sez:
   From training I received from Dr. Roy Epperson, this
should indeed be marked down at a show. On the show bench,
what is exhibited should be typical of the cultivar. If it
is not "supposed" to have horns (per the R&I), then it
should be penalized, regardless of how nice a stalk it is
otherwise. (Of course, this assumes that the judges are
familiar enough with it to know it's not supposed to have
horns...)
   I have seen nice stalks of THORNBIRD and CONJURATION get
points off for missing horns, or a mix of horns and
flounces.
   I have CC, although it didn't bloom last year. I will
let everyone know if I get the version with the "extra
features."
   I am sending a copy of this to Joan Roberts, who
introduced CC. Maybe we'll get some feedback.



=====
Vince Lewonski
vincelewonski@yahoo.com
Secane, Pennsylvania, USA Zone 6b
"Things are getting worse but I feel a lot better..."

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