Re: Re: SHOW: Deciding What Constitutes "Introduction"

From: Gerry Snyder <gcsnyd@loop.com>

Jeff and Carolyn Walters wrote:
> 
> > From: Gerry Snyder <gcsnyd@loop.com>
> >
> > I can't believe that introduction in the US could have been a
> > requirement at any time since the AIS became the registering body for
> > all rhizomatous iris. Before that, maybe.
> 
> Gerry,
> 
> Hasn't the AIS "always" been the registering body for rhizomatous irises?

I'm not sure how many years elapsed between the founding of AIS and its
taking over that task. I will check through the early minutes and
presidents' messages to see if I can find out.

> Proportionally speaking, there were more non-US hybridized irises listed in
> the 1939 AIS Checklist than in any subsequent edition.

Seems reasonable, since the huge growth of US hybridizers has been since
then.

> 
> And contrary to your assumption, the AIS in its early days bestowed awards
> on what were clearly foreign introduced cultivars (e.g., JEAN CAYEUX,
> French Dykes Medal-1931, but AIS Award of Merit-1936), while in recent
> years it has not granted such awards to foreign hybridized irises unless
> they were first introduced in the U.S. of A.
> 

Jeff,

Here I was misunderstood. My comments were excessively terse, thinking
that the context was clear (always iffy in threads that spread out over
days).

I was responding to Anner, who had said:

    Is there not, or was there not at one time, also some requirement
that 
    Introduction had to occur in the USA for foreign irises? 

She was responding to Lloyd's statement:  

<<  Dear Anner: Chiming in. For introduction, the hybridizer of
introducer must
 send a copy of the catalogue newly listing the cultivar, OR advertize
it in
 the Bulletin. Either of these proves that that cultivar has been
 introduced >>

We were talking about requirements on the process of introduction for an
iris to be eligible to be judged in a show. 

We hadn't even got to the overlapping and (at least now) tighter
requirements for garden awards. Thank you for the example of how AIS has
changed in that regard.

Gerry
-- 
g*@loop.com
Gerry Snyder, AIS Symposium Chair
Region 15 Ass't RVP, JT Chair
Member San Fernando Valley, Southern California Iris Societies
in warm, winterless Los Angeles

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