Re: HYB: TB: question - making wider falls/hafts etc?


--- In iris-talk@y..., Linda Mann <lmann@i...> wrote:
"...when I say 'waterfall' I don't mean hang-dog.  I really dislike 
horizontal falls on TBs...But what I mean by waterfall is something 
that arches out nicely, goes down at an angle (maybe 45o) then has a 
bit of ruffle (the waves that the falls make?).

I'm glad you clarified that.  By hang-dog, I meant those that look 
like some of the pallidas--turn down abruptly from the end of the 
beard, then are even convex below--curve in toward the stem, then out 
a bit at the end.

On Walter's comment on one-in-a-thousand as a keeper--you know, that 
depends on the cross.  Some crosses--of good stuff even--produce 
compost.  Period.  For everyone.  Then there are occasional parents 
that seem never to throw a bad one.  I remember a row of Arabi Pasha 
seedlings (I forget the other parent, but it was an Award of Merit 
type American blue, nice and wide, etc.) that was darned near uniform 
GOOD.  Problem was, not one of them was GOOD enough!  They sat there 
for about three years, blooming away, and then went into the compost 
too.  I wish now I had gone on with at least one of them, but I was 
so stumped about which one to do it with I could never decide.

Gordon Plough's cross that produced one of his red-blacks, I think 
Swahili, were mostly hum-drum, not too bad, not real outstanding, 
then there was this one that, wow! did it ever stand out.  On its 
maiden bloom it was tall, large flower, beautifully branched, etc. 
etc.  Then I saw it after it was on the market a while--almost border 
size, and not near the flower it was in its first flush.  It was 
still that one in a thousand, but not with the flourish and drum roll 
that were promised on the maiden bloom.

Two medium width flowers crossed, *might* produce one wider, but 
those are the ones you watch for, hope for, and when they happen, 
grab it and run with it into the next generation.  Most of the time 
the gain is slow, incremental, and if you are watching for branching, 
bud count, and attractive foliage at the same time, you're going to 
be growing *very* long seedling rows.   And then again, you might get 
lucky....

Neil Mogensen  near Asheville, NC


 

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