Re: REB:Rebloomers Revisited

If anyone gets the opportunity to have John Weiler visit your club as a guest
speaker to hear him talk on rebloomers, make it a point to attend!  You will
not be disappointed!  This gentleman will gladly explain all the questions
asked about rebloomers thus far in a way you can all understand, and you will
walk away with a better comprehension of remontant irises.

I was very fortunate to have heard him speak at our club, and it was one of
the best programs I ever attended.

Patrick Orr
Sun Country Iris Society
Phoenix, AZ  Zone 9
USA
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: John I Jones<j*@usjoneses.com>
  To: iris@hort.net<i*@hort.net>
  Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [iris] REB:Rebloomers Revisited


  On Sep 3, 2004, at 11:46 AM, laurief wrote:

  >> The judges handbook makes this relatively clear IMHO
  >
  > But it doesn't, John, as you noted in your next paragraph.
  >>
  >> A reblooming iris is one that blooms in the Spring and again in the
  >> same growing season (JJ: implies in the same garden from the same
  >> clump)
  >
  > Implications are open to interpretation.  Why "imply" anything when a
  > bit
  > more information would clarify the matter without need for
  > interpretation
  > or misinterpretation?

  Because the standard was written by normal people that assume that
  readers will a conventional interpretation. No doubt that the entire
  handbook would profit by a great deal of more specificity, often in
  areas much more cloudy than this.

  You can mince words forever on anything. Reasonable standard,
  reasonable interpretation, community usage.


  >>
  >> 1. Rebloomers (Cyclic Rebloomers), the standard for this group, are
  >> cultivars which complete two distinct cycles of bloom. After the
  >> Spring
  >> flowering there is a second predictable period of bloom. (JJ: the
  >> operative word being predictable)
  >
  > True, but then there's that pesky category #4 (with its operative word
  > "unpredictably") that the rare rebloomer actually manages to perform
  > its
  > way into up here in the frigid north.
  >

  That is why the REB report asks for zone information. There are no
  absolutes.

  Irises turn different colors in different soils. Suffer different
  diseases in different areas of the country. Bloom differently in in
  different environs.

  You have to be flexible.

  John                | "There be dragons here"
                            |  Annotation used by ancient cartographers
                            |  to indicate the edge of the known world.

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