i too personally dont mind off topic topics. I know not one of us has STRICTLY medit plants on their property. Im not on any other lists either and i do learn about possible plants to grow in my garden that i didnt know about. __________________________________________________________________ Ukyo: "Okonomiyaki became my life..I set up a portable griddle and cooked it by the raging sea!" bystander 1: "Um, why the sea? Isnt that kinda pointless?" bystander 2:" That's the point stupid! Havent you seen old Samurai movies?: -------------------Ukyo Kuonji's explanation of her martial--------------------------------- Okonomiyaki cooking prowess