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Tree Tubes

>From the last Medit-Plants Digest, it seems clear that Digest subscribers 
see more postings that regular subscribers do.  My first posting about 
Tree Tubes appeared as a blank message on Medit-Plants, apparently 
because it was sent in mime format, but was printed in full in the digest.

I don't normally post anything in mime format.  In fact I didn't even 
know I could.  But in my desperate attempts to reproduce, in my first 
response, the first Medit-Plants message to mention Tree Tubes, I hit 
upon the idea of "bouncing" the message to myself first.  This was my 
third effort to avoid sending it as an attachment.  It worked for the 
digest edition, but produced a blank message in the regular edition.

I received the following correspondence privately, which may throw 
additional light on the question, and which included some very useful 
information about tree tubes.  Since others expressed ignorance of tree 
tubes, too, I hope that reproducing the messages here will be of some value:

Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:02:36
To: harryd@CapAccess.org
From: Doug McClure <dkm@cts.com>
Subject: Re: Tree Tubes

I assume that the beginning of your message explains what's going on...


  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,

  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

  Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.

Why are you sending messages in MIME?

DKM

Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:35:35 -0800
To: harryd@CapAccess.org
From: nsterman@ucsd.edu (Nan Sterman)
Subject: Re: Tree Tubes

Harry, I received your entire message.  I wonder what is going on....  I
did get some blank messages today, but they were from the perennials list.

Hmmmm...

Nan

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Nan Sterman, "gardening addict"
Olivenhain, California
Sunset Zone 24, USDA Zone 10b or 11
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Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:42:42 -0700
To: harryd@CapAccess.org
From: Mary Sue Ittner <msittner@mcn.org>
Subject: Re: Tree Tubes

Dear Harry,
As a list subscriber I got both of your messages and when I have replied to
people in the past the text of their message is included as below unless I
delete it. So do you suppose the problem has to do with your e-mail program
(mine is Eudora) or your network provider instead of the Medit-list? Your
first message was double-spaced and was preceded by the following:
" This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,

  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

  Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.



Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii"
On another list I receive when there is such a message, it is usually
followed by garbage, but in this case yours was in English. Maybe others
have not set up their e-mail to translate mime message. Anyway it must be
very frustrating for you and hopefully someone will be able to help you
understand what is happening.

Mary Sue Ittner
>
>
To: harryd@CapAccess.org, Medit-Plants@ucdavis.edu
From: Tim Dutton <timdut@freemail.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Tree Tubes

>
Well Harry, I'm no expert, but I think there are two different mail formats
used around the world, and some mail programs cannot cope with one or the
other, whilst others can handle both. When I got your original message, it
was prefaced with the following text (presumably put on by the little gnome
who works in the e-mail sorting office):

  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,

  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

  Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.

I am currently using Eudora Lite, which seems to have no problems with mail
whatever it has been sent from. Hope this helps. If only someone in the
computer industry could come up with ONE standard for something. Let's be
thankful that there is only one standard for plant names, even if some of
those standard names keep changing!
Tim Dutton		timdut@freemail.co.nz
"Raindrops", Main Road North, Kaitoke, Upper Hutt, New Zealand

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 03:54:21 -0400
From: Alisdair <Alisdair@compuserve.com>
Subject: Tree Tubes

Harry:

By now I expect everyone's told you about tree tubes. They are stiff opaq=
ue
polythene tubes, sometimes cylindrical but more commonly (and more
usefully) box-shaped, about 4 inches across by between two and three feet=

high. When you plant a young or seedling tree you put a stake beside it a=
nd
put one of these tubes around the tree, attaching it to the stake. It
protects the young tree against predators for its first two seasons or so=
,
and regardless of predators gives faster stronger growth.

Best wishes,

Alisdair Aird (Sussex, England)

Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:34:20 +1000
To: harryd@CapAccess.org
Subject: Re: Tree Tubes

 I have not seen any postings on Medit about tree tubes. Another of life's
great mysteries?

Michael Bailes
The Fragrant Garden
Portsmouth Road
Erina. N.S.W. 2250 Australia.
Int fax 61 43 651979
Phone 61 43 677322
frgntgar@fastlink.com.au
Next Chilli Festival   March 8/9  1998


***
Michael, the reference to tree tubes was in the posting on pawpaws of 
Sunday, July 6, by MrnLibn@aol.com

I'm grateful to all who wrote, and especially so to Alisdair, who 
described tree tubes very clearly.  I can almost see one, based on your 
very clear description.  I can also understand why the trees are better 
off protected from predators.  But I'm not terribly clear why the tubes 
should enable the tree to grow better "regardless of [whether there are 
any] predators [or not].  Do they contain nutrients?  Is it the 
protection from wind and sun on the trunk that produces better growth?

Harry Dewey
Beltsville, Maryland
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