Re: perennials DIGEST V2 #946
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> perennials DIGEST Saturday, February 20 1999 Volume 02 : Number 946
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Gardens at risk!!
> Re: Thanks for the Advice!
> Re: Thanks for the Advice!
> Re: Thanks for the Advice!
> Re: Thanks for the Advice!
> Re: Foxgloves
> Cobra Lily was Re: Plant tour of the Central and NW US coast
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 09:09:37 -0800
> From: Nan Sterman <nsterman@mindsovermatter.com>
> Subject: Gardens at risk!!
>
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>
> >With our listowner's permission, I am passing on this petition to preserve
> >community gardens in New York City. I checked out the web page and it is
> >very legitimate and extremely important to the folks in these communities.
>
> Nan
> __________
>
> >
> >
> >Subject: NYC Community Gardens
> >
> >Please consider supporting the following petition to voice your support
> >
> >for New York City's community gardens. With 14,000 empty, buildable
> >lots in New York City and only 750 community gardens, Mayor Giuliani
> >plans to
> >auction off over 120 thriving community gardens in May. This is the
> >second
> >auction in which gardens have been targeted. These gardens, many of
> >them decades
> >old, were established with the city's blessing on abandoned and vacant
> >lots that had often been centers of drug and crime activity.
> >
> >New York City's gardens are known across the country. They are studied
> >
> >in our nation's schools. Their disappearance would mark not only a
> >tragedy for the city, but would set a dangerous precedent for other
> >cities across
> >the country whose garden programs are struggling to survive.
> >
> >The Mayor thinks only a small minority care about the gardens. If he
> >were made aware of the large numbers of people, not only in New York but
> >
> >across the nation, who care about this issue, he will be forced to
> >reconsider his policies.
> >
> >Please take a moment to read this petition. Sign at the bottom if you
> >agree and forward the petition to all the people you know who would
> >support it.
> >If you are the 50th, 100th, 150th...(etc) signature, please also e-mail
> >
> >the petition to: <N*@cobite.com>NYCgardens@cobite.com
> >
> >For more information about New York City community gardens and
> >the efforts to save them, visit
> ><http://www.nycgardens.org/>http://www.nycgardens.org/
> >
> >PETITION IN SUPPORT OF NYC'S GARDENS
> >
> >Dear Mayor Giuliani,
> >
> >Community gardens represent one of the best and most all around
> >positive developments in New York City. They are founded by working New
> >
> >Yorkers, thrive on principles of a true democracy, provide solace,
> >learning, and
> >pleasure to young and old, offer bridges across cultures and ethnic
> >groups, offer space for a multitude of cultural activities, and turn
> >neighborhoods and indeed the city as a whole into a more vibrant and
> >healthy environment.
> >
> >New York's gardens have set a national example of innovative and
> >successful public policy and urban renewal. They are studied and
> >admired across the country. Their preservation represents a special
> >opportunity to set a
> >critical environmental benchmark in this issue and to evidence
> >foresight for the cities of the future.
> >
> >We hereby ask that you withdraw the gardens from the auction list.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >1. Myla Goldberg, Brooklyn, NY
> >2. Mark Leger, Brooklyn, NY
> >3. Julie Warsowe, Brooklyn, NY
> >4. Alan Chin, New York, NY
> >5. Jill Underwood, Brooklyn, NY
> >6. Ed Gilmartin, Brooklyn, NY
> >7. Daniel Kleinfeld, Manhattan, NY
> >8. Colin Young, Brooklyn, NY
> >9. Katherine Puma, New York, NY
> >10. Katherine Harber, New York, NY
> >11. Patrick Boyd, New York, NY
> >12. Jay Douglas, New York, NY
> >13. David Aron Damane, NY
> >14. Katy Grenfell, New York, NY
> >15. Rommy Sandhu, New York, NY
> >16. Charles Michael Cone, New York, NY
> >17. Jay Poindexter, Brooklyn, NY
> >18. Scott Rednour, New York, NY
> >19. Vicki Manning, Brooklyn, NY
> >20. Paul B. Haydon, Jackson Heights, NY
> >21. Jeffries Blackerby, New York, NY
> >22. Martha McCully, New York, NY
> >23. Judith Newman, New York, NY
> >24. Elizabeth Crow, New York, NY
> >25. Heather Lord, New York, NY
> >26. Joanna Clark, Brooklyn, NY
> >27. Michael Trigilio, San Antonio, TX
> >28. Aurelio M. Montemayor, San Antonio, TX
> >29. Liz Moore, San Antonio, TX
> >30. Jennifer Popiel, Los Angeles, CA
> >31. Carol Mills, Lafayette, IN
> >32. Jon Mills, Lafayette, IN
> >33 Myrdene Anderson, Lafayette, IN
> >34. Maria Lydia Spinelli, Chicago, IL
> >35. Patricia Monaghan, Chicago, IL
> >36. Elyse Guttenberg, Fairbanks, AK
> >37. Ava Torre-Bueno, San Diego, CA
> >38. Susi Torre-Bueno, San Diego, CA (NYC resident for 25+ years+)
> >39. Jose Torre-Bueno, Encinitas, CA (former NYC resident)
> 40. Nan Sterman, Olivenhain, CA
> 41. Jackie Meier Davis, Portland, OR
>
> >
> >
> >Don't forget that in order to 'sign' this petition, the best way is to
> >copy the whole thing and paste it on a new outgoing email and add your
> >name.
> >(Copy and paste the subject line as well!)
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>
>
> <excerpt>With our listowner's permission, I am passing on this petition
> to preserve community gardens in New York City. I checked out the web
> page and it is very legitimate and extremely important to the folks in
> these communities.
>
> </excerpt>
>
> Nan
>
> __________
>
>
> <excerpt>
>
>
> Subject: NYC Community Gardens
>
>
> Please consider supporting the following petition to voice your
> support
>
>
> for New York City's community gardens. With 14,000 empty, buildable
>
> lots in New York City and only 750 community gardens, Mayor Giuliani
>
> plans to
>
> auction off over 120 thriving community gardens in May. This is the
>
> second
>
> auction in which gardens have been targeted. These gardens, many of
>
> them decades
>
> old, were established with the city's blessing on abandoned and vacant
>
> lots that had often been centers of drug and crime activity.
>
>
> New York City's gardens are known across the country. They are
> studied
>
>
> in our nation's schools. Their disappearance would mark not only a
>
> tragedy for the city, but would set a dangerous precedent for other
>
> cities across
>
> the country whose garden programs are struggling to survive.
>
>
> The Mayor thinks only a small minority care about the gardens. If he
>
> were made aware of the large numbers of people, not only in New York
> but
>
>
> across the nation, who care about this issue, he will be forced to
>
> reconsider his policies.
>
>
> Please take a moment to read this petition. Sign at the bottom if you
>
> agree and forward the petition to all the people you know who would
>
> support it.
>
> If you are the 50th, 100th, 150th...(etc) signature, please also
> e-mail
>
>
> the petition to: <<N*@cobite.com>NYCgardens@cobite.com
>
>
> For more information about New York City community gardens and
>
> the efforts to save them, visit
> <<http://www.nycgardens.org/>http://www.nycgardens.org/
>
>
> PETITION IN SUPPORT OF NYC'S GARDENS
>
>
> Dear Mayor Giuliani,
>
>
> Community gardens represent one of the best and most all around
>
> positive developments in New York City. They are founded by working
> New
>
>
> Yorkers, thrive on principles of a true democracy, provide solace,
>
> learning, and
>
> pleasure to young and old, offer bridges across cultures and ethnic
>
> groups, offer space for a multitude of cultural activities, and turn
>
> neighborhoods and indeed the city as a whole into a more vibrant and
>
> healthy environment.
>
>
> New York's gardens have set a national example of innovative and
>
> successful public policy and urban renewal. They are studied and
>
> admired across the country. Their preservation represents a special
>
> opportunity to set a
>
> critical environmental benchmark in this issue and to evidence
>
> foresight for the cities of the future.
>
>
> We hereby ask that you withdraw the gardens from the auction list.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> 1. Myla Goldberg, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 2. Mark Leger, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 3. Julie Warsowe, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 4. Alan Chin, New York, NY
>
> 5. Jill Underwood, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 6. Ed Gilmartin, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 7. Daniel Kleinfeld, Manhattan, NY
>
> 8. Colin Young, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 9. Katherine Puma, New York, NY
>
> 10. Katherine Harber, New York, NY
>
> 11. Patrick Boyd, New York, NY
>
> 12. Jay Douglas, New York, NY
>
> 13. David Aron Damane, NY
>
> 14. Katy Grenfell, New York, NY
>
> 15. Rommy Sandhu, New York, NY
>
> 16. Charles Michael Cone, New York, NY
>
> 17. Jay Poindexter, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 18. Scott Rednour, New York, NY
>
> 19. Vicki Manning, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 20. Paul B. Haydon, Jackson Heights, NY
>
> 21. Jeffries Blackerby, New York, NY
>
> 22. Martha McCully, New York, NY
>
> 23. Judith Newman, New York, NY
>
> 24. Elizabeth Crow, New York, NY
>
> 25. Heather Lord, New York, NY
>
> 26. Joanna Clark, Brooklyn, NY
>
> 27. Michael Trigilio, San Antonio, TX
>
> 28. Aurelio M. Montemayor, San Antonio, TX
>
> 29. Liz Moore, San Antonio, TX
>
> 30. Jennifer Popiel, Los Angeles, CA
>
> 31. Carol Mills, Lafayette, IN
>
> 32. Jon Mills, Lafayette, IN
>
> 33 Myrdene Anderson, Lafayette, IN
>
> 34. Maria Lydia Spinelli, Chicago, IL
>
> 35. Patricia Monaghan, Chicago, IL
>
> 36. Elyse Guttenberg, Fairbanks, AK
>
> 37. Ava Torre-Bueno, San Diego, CA
>
> 38. Susi Torre-Bueno, San Diego, CA (NYC resident for 25+ years+)
>
> 39. Jose Torre-Bueno, Encinitas, CA (former NYC resident)
>
> </excerpt>40. Nan Sterman, Olivenhain, CA
>
>
>
> <excerpt>
>
>
> Don't forget that in order to 'sign' this petition, the best way is to
>
> copy the whole thing and paste it on a new outgoing email and add your
>
> name.
>
> (Copy and paste the subject line as well!)
>
>
>
>
> </excerpt>
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:16:36 EST
> From: VBouffard@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Thanks for the Advice!
>
> I wouldn't give up on the foxgloves quite yet. I had foxgloves the year
> before last and was expecting them to seed themselves right away, but the
> seedlings (by their dozens) didn't appear until the following spring. Our
> climate is colder than yours; I don't know whether that is a factor.
>
> Vivien Bouffard
> Zone 6, Mass.
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>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 12:06:28 -0600
> From: thinkfast@linkfast.net (Leslie L. Smith)
> Subject: Re: Thanks for the Advice!
>
> At 12:16 PM 2/20/99, VBouffard@aol.com wrote:
> >I wouldn't give up on the foxgloves quite yet. I had foxgloves the year
> >before last and was expecting them to seed themselves right away, but the
> >seedlings (by their dozens) didn't appear until the following spring. Our
> >climate is colder than yours; I don't know whether that is a factor.
> >
> I thot Foxglves were Bi-ennials.
> won't come up til the second year
>
> - --leslie
> Master Gardener Intern (Student), Zone 7(b?) low of 9F this year, in Humid,
> HUMID Cullman, Alabama.
>
> "If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need."
> - Cicero
>
>
>
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 16:24:06 -0500
> From: "Robert Campbell" <rbcamp@neptune.on.ca>
> Subject: Re: Thanks for the Advice!
>
> Leslie, biennials are plants that flower the second year after germination,
> and then die. Foxglove seeds should start to sprout the spring after they
> are dropped. Many plant seeds need a cold period before they will
> germinate, although to the best of my knowledge the foxgloves are not among
> them. Refrigeration is worth trying with many perennial seed varieties. It
> sometimes improves the percentage of germinating plants.
>
> Bob Campbell
> USDA 4
> Southern Ontario
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie L. Smith <thinkfast@linkfast.net>
> To: perennials@mallorn.com <perennials@mallorn.com>
> Date: 1999 February, 20 13:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Thanks for the Advice!
>
>
> >At 12:16 PM 2/20/99, VBouffard@aol.com wrote:
> >>I wouldn't give up on the foxgloves quite yet. I had foxgloves the year
> >>before last and was expecting them to seed themselves right away, but the
> >>seedlings (by their dozens) didn't appear until the following spring. Our
> >>climate is colder than yours; I don't know whether that is a factor.
> >>
> >I thot Foxglves were Bi-ennials.
> >won't come up til the second year
> >
> >--leslie
> >Master Gardener Intern (Student), Zone 7(b?) low of 9F this year, in Humid,
> >HUMID Cullman, Alabama.
> >
> >"If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need."
> ..
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:30:59 -0500
> From: skid@bway.net
> Subject: Re: Thanks for the Advice!
>
> >At 12:16 PM 2/20/99, VBouffard@aol.com wrote:
> >>I wouldn't give up on the foxgloves quite yet. I had foxgloves the year
> >>before last and was expecting them to seed themselves right away, but the
> >>seedlings (by their dozens) didn't appear until the following spring. Our
> >>climate is colder than yours; I don't know whether that is a factor.
> >>
> >I thot Foxglves were Bi-ennials.
> >won't come up til the second year
>
> While most Digitalis are biennial, there are several species that are
> somewhat perennial (eg: D. ferruginea). It is also possible for biennial
> Digitalis, when 'happy', to produce offshoot plants at the base of the
> current year's flowering rosette of leaves, so as to extend the life of the
> plant for one or more seasons.
>
> That said, we think that the discussion was not referring to the life
> expectancy of the plants, but rather as to when the seeds from the previous
> season's flowers would germinate in a garden setting.
>
> In our experience Digitalis seeds can germinate in the garden either during
> the current season or the following one (and perhaps even the year after
> that).
>
> Bill & Harvey
> SKID Plants Zone 6 CT USA
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:55:17 -0500
> From: "Judy Warner" <warner@massed.net>
> Subject: Re: Foxgloves
>
> I have never had my foxgloves reseed themselves in my garden, although I
> gather the seeds and then grow little rows in my raised beds. But, some of
> plants, which I gave to a friend, reseeded themselves like mad in her
> garden. The difference seemed to be that my garden beds have nice soil
> around the plants, and hers were growing next to a flagstone paved walk
> which had fairly thin soil near the edges--and guess where thousands of
> little seedlings popped up. They were the very same family of plants. Go
> figure. Judy W (needless to say we moved lots and I reclaimed my share.)
>
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>
> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 1999 17:24:01 -0800
> From: Virginia Prinns <inanda@mag-net.com>
> Subject: Cobra Lily was Re: Plant tour of the Central and NW US coast
>
> PEnquiring mind wonders what the botanical name is for 'Cobra Lily".
> Ginny in Prince George BC Zone 2
>
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