RE: Rudbeckia

I noticed last night one little plant is up.  I think it was the length of
germination I didn't expect (21 days).  It's been about that now.  I did
cover the seed lightly, so we'll see if more comes up.  

I only sowed a bit of the seed.  I thought I'd try outside, direct sowing,
and if that didn't work, throw it out in the fall to winter over since it
seeds in my yard that way all the time.

Thanks for the great seed starting sites.  I printed the list.

Susan Saxton, zone 6b
For mine is a little old fashioned garden where the flowers come
together to praise the Lord and teach all who look upon them to do
likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: WHTROS@aol.com [W*@aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:46 PM
> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject: Re: Rudbeckia
> 
> 
> In a message dated 5/10/99 10:24:25 AM CST, 
> SSaxton@Schwabe.com writes:
> 
> << Does anyone know, generally speaking, how to 
> germinate/grow these from seed
>  ON PURPOSE? >>  Hi, Susan --
> 	I've tried to grow Rudbeckia from commercial seed pkts 
> 2-3 times with 
> no success.  Apparently what they put on the back of the pkts 
> Is more or less 
> "generic" to planting all seed in general.  I have discovered 
> this last year 
> that there is more to starting seed, esp. perennials.  This 
> year I found a 
> couple seed starting databases on the Net.  
> 	http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/tm.html
> 	http://home.sol.no/~asles/sowing.htm
> 	http://www.anet-chi.com/~manytimes/
> 	http://hardyplants.com/master.htm
> 	http://www.gardenweb.com/forums/seed/
> 	http://www.hort.net/propagation/
> And then there is the Propagation List's Archives:
> 	http://www.mallorn.com/lists/seeds-list/search.cgi
> 
> When wanting info, I start with the first one and work my way down.
> I don't remember when I've last used the last 3.
> 
> I was successful this year, I believe, because of info I 
> found on the McAlpin 
> site.
> I have nearly approx. 64 seedlings to show for my "homework" 
> so am very happy!
> 
> According to the McAlpin site Rudbeckia should germinate in 
> 14-21 days at 
> 65-70 deg. F. in peaty soil.  SURFACE sow and light is required.  
> 	You probably did all that.  BUT I think the clincher was the 
> Pre-chilling for 2 weeks!  That bit of info is never included 
> on any pkgs.  I 
> simply put the seed pkt in a zip-lock in the crisper of my 
> Frig.  That was 
> the only thing different I did this year.
> 
> Now that is my HO.  I am always eager to hear what the 
> experts/expereinced 
> "growers" have to say.  I frequently don't respond because I 
> don't feed 
> qualified.
> 
> Best Wishes to you all --
> Barb
> USDA Zone 5, Rock Island, IL
> "What this country needs is dirtier fingernails & cleaner 
> minds."  Will Rogers
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