Re: Cross Results...Example this year....837 Thorson 99

Howdy group!
Just to make sure we are all on the same page....
My discussion was on how hard it is to try to get the genetics of 
these AGs to only be big and orange and shaped high on both ends.
I was just using the 837 Thorson 99 as an example....I could have used my 401 
Bhaskaran 99 which was very orange but someone who grew one got nothing but 
white!   These genetics "quarks" have no reflection on the grower.
Steve Thorson is a SUPER grower from Northern MN, who has been very 
helpful to me and the AG community.
Wishing everyone a great holiday.
David Bhaskaran
Rochester, MN  (Southern MN ;-)


In a message dated 12/18/00 8:53:24 PM Central Standard Time, 
mairx@faro.ens.uabc.mx writes:

<< Frank, David, Steve: I lost my 837, absolutely green.
 M Ibarra
 
 At 09:26 AM 12/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
 >I also grew a Thorson 837, and had 2 beautifully shaped orange pumpkins (one
 >500.0, the other 560 UOW), with absolutely no green.  I had 6 or 8 pumpkins
 >that were pollinated, and they all looked bright yellow before culling, with
 >no hints of green.
 >
 >Frank Peregrine
 >
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: <DBHASKARAN@aol.com>
 >To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
 >Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 10:40 PM
 >Subject: Re: Cross Results...Example this year....837 Thorson 99
 >
 >
 >> Howdy!
 >> I would agree it is very tough on the genetics issue.
 >> I know 3 people who grew 837 Thorson 99 seed this year....all 4 pumpkins
 >> looked
 >> different (added mine):
 >> Mine: 100% Green...beautifully shaped.
 >> Brandt: (From my seed package from Steve) Orange but had a Huge blossem
 >end
 >> on ALL pumpkins on this plant...which made the pumpkins "butt ugly".
 >> Heyne: Orange but with lots of green on the top areas.
 >> Buntrock: Did well in Iowa, but was more of a squash than pumpkin...
 >> So there you have it....4 different results from 4 seeds from the SAME
 >> pumpkin...
 >>
 >> My guess is that people who grow the 656 Bhaskaran 00 (760 Patrick 99(f) x
 >> 815 checkon 98(m)) will not be assured of a nice orange pumpkin as I got
 >from
 >> the 760 Patrick seed. (801.5 x self).  Some might get the nice
 >> orange...others might get the
 >> blue I got from the 815.
 >> One final note: People who grew the 760 Patrick...all seemed to get the
 >nice
 >> shape
 >> and orange color...so maybe the 760 is "pure" ;-).
 >>
 >> Pictures are still on my web page:
 >> http://members.aol.com/dbhaskaran/pumpkin00/
 >>
 >> Good Discussion.
 >> David Bhaskaran
 >> Rochester, MN
 >>
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