Re: cuke beetles

Hi, Guys (and Jason)!

For the record, I know what cucumber beetles look like. My question,  
below, was in answer to Debbie's question, also below:

She asked what the yellow-striped bugs are, giving no further  
description. Because I had so little to go by, I asked what her bugs  
look like.
Googling cucumber beetles might get me the answer, but as they are her  
bugs, not mine, I won't know if it's the answer without knowing more  
about her bugs.

Have I thoroughly confused it?





On Jul 30, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Jason Thomas wrote:

> *go to google, type in 'cucumber beetle', click on search button.  
> Then click
> 'Images', the second link in the upper right.  Or use the link below.*
> **
> *http://tinyurl.com/2b7u93c*
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> What do they look like (aside from the yellow stripe)?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
>>
>> Kathie, then what are the yellow striped bugs?
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
>>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>> Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 11:18:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: cuke beetles
>>>
>>> Debbie,
>>> The yellow lady bug beetles are cucumber beetles. Aka cuke  
>>> beetles. Aka
>>> diabrotica, the diabolical diabrotica. Get rid of them if you can.
>>> Good luck!
>>> Kathie
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
>>>
>>> Sucks to be me!  I plan on going to HD tomorrow to get Triazicide  
>>> for the
>>>> cuke
>>>> beetles.  I bought the wrong stuff the other day.  Of course I  
>>>> have plans
>>>> tomorrow night and won't be able to spray until Friday.  At least  
>>>> I hope
>>>> to
>>>>
>>> get
>>>
>>>> a free dinner out of it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think my neighbors got a kick out of me running through the  
>>>> patches
>>>> holding
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> container with soap and water trying to get the beetles.  It was  
>>>> quite an
>>>> interesting dance.  Can I spray dish soap and water using a  
>>>> household
>>>> sprayer
>>>> or
>>>> will it hurt the plants.  I would be much easier to spray in mid- 
>>>> flight
>>>> and
>>>> then
>>>> laugh at their slow death (compliments of Dawn).
>>>>
>>>> What are the yellow colored lady bug beetles?  I know the orange  
>>>> ones are
>>>>
>>> Asian
>>>
>>>> beetles.
>>>>
>>>> Debbie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Robert Steckroth <robertsteckroth@gmail.com>
>>>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>>> Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 9:00:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: cuke beetles
>>>>
>>>> My patch is organic, haha. Is this a common problem in every  
>>>> state? Or
>>>> will
>>>> I get problems when the beatles stumble across my patch. Even my  
>>>> mold
>>>> stopped spreading! Sorry Deb, sometimes it only hurts other people.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, <rstokes@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The most effective chemical on cucumber beetle is Lambda- 
>>>> cyhalothrin (aka
>>>>> Warrior T or Scimitar)  These are not readily available to the  
>>>>> average
>>>>> home
>>>>> gardner.  However, Triaicide has a small percentage of this  
>>>>> chemical in
>>>>> it.
>>>>> Usually you can buy Triaicide from Home Depot or other places  
>>>>> that sell
>>>>> chemicals to home gardners. Lamda-cyhalothri is a synthetic  
>>>>> pyrethrum
>>>>> and is
>>>>> used in food production. It is long lasting and the ready to  
>>>>> harvest is
>>>>> usually around 21 days after a treatment of Lambda-cyhalothrin.   
>>>>> I don't
>>>>> use
>>>>> Scimitar or Warror T for several reasons.  One they are very  
>>>>> expensive
>>>>> and a
>>>>> whiskey shot glass of Warrior T is all I would need for a  
>>>>> season.  It
>>>>> usually is sold in 2 1/2 gal. jugs so it comes in a volume way  
>>>>> to large
>>>>> for
>>>>> my use.  I use Triacide at 2 and three times the recommended  
>>>>> rate and
>>>>> have
>>>>> good success in knocking back the cucumber beetle.  Also, using
>>>>> Imidichloprin (Merit) as a drench, it works as a systemic and  
>>>>> gives me a
>>>>> double punch in knocking out !
>>>>> the cuke beetle and other pests.  What I have experienced is that
>>>>> Triacide
>>>>> and a treatment of Merit keeps me cucumber beetle free for at  
>>>>> least two
>>>>> weeks.  These treatments also seem to be effective against  
>>>>> squash bugs.
>>>>> Another factor to consider, is to be as effective as possible when
>>>>> applying
>>>>> a chemical. Use a sprayer that will put out a pattern that will  
>>>>> coat the
>>>>> top
>>>>> and bottom and even the stems of the plants.  I like to mix a  
>>>>> cocktail
>>>>> of
>>>>> Triacide and Neptunes harvest together.  I've had good results  
>>>>> by doing
>>>>> this.  I find that the best time to spray is around 5pm, there  
>>>>> is still
>>>>> enough activity of the cuke beetle to get nailed as well as very  
>>>>> little
>>>>> activity of honey bees which I try to protect.  I might mention  
>>>>> that I
>>>>> am
>>>>> certified and licensed by the state to buy and spray restricted
>>>>> chemicals. I
>>>>> have a little background in this area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think pyrethrins work on soft-bodied insects like aphids and  
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>
>>>>> beetles.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually the product labelling will list the insects that it is
>>>>>> effective
>>>>>>
>>>>> on.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Debbie Runkle  
>>>>>> <yorunk13@att.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I purchased Spectracide Garden Insect Killer containing 0.3%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pyrethrins.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> guessing that I purchased the wrong stuff?  I sprayed a couple  
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> nights
>>>>>
>>>>>> ago and
>>>>>>> they are still around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Debbie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Russ Stokes <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>>>>>> Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:27:10 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: cuke beetles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been growing squash, pumpkins, gourds for a long time.
>>>>>>> Cucumber
>>>>>>> beetles
>>>>>>> on your plant is a sure sign that if not treated promptly,  
>>>>>>> more than
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> will get bacterial wilt.  The bacteria proliferates while the  
>>>>>>> beetle
>>>>>>> ingests
>>>>>>> from an infected leaf and then passes the disease to the other  
>>>>>>> leaves,
>>>>>>> until you
>>>>>>> have a stunted dying plant.  Here is what I recommend:
>>>>>>> Purchase Bayer Advance Fruit, Citrus and Vegetable Insect  
>>>>>>> Control.  It
>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>> Imidacloprid (Merit)  I usually use the recommended dosage,  
>>>>>>> dump this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>
>>>>>> 5
>>>>>>> gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water.  Then for each  
>>>>>>> plant I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> slowly
>>>>>
>>>>>> dump
>>>>>>> the contents around the base of the plants.  This is a systemic
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> insecticide
>>>>>
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> it usually will kill insects that bite into the plant.  I then
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> thoroughly
>>>>>
>>>>>> spray
>>>>>>> the leaves with Triazicide, again I use the recommended rate.   
>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> either in early morning or in the evening.  These two controls  
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> well
>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> cuke beetle, squash bug and other pests.  Make sure you protect
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yourself
>>>>>
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> the chemicals by wearing protective clothing or at least where  
>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> pants
>>>>>
>>>>>> and a
>>>>>>> shirt with glasses. The chemical in Triazicide is a synthetic
>>>>>>> pyrethrum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> it touches the skin you will feel a burning sensation and  
>>>>>>> itch.  Good
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luck.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
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