Re: GPC does not promote this sport
- To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
- Subject: Re: GPC does not promote this sport
- From: "* M* <z*@hotmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 14:21:39 PDT
It's a matter of philosophy not personality. I have never met a finer
group of people myself. I like your reasoning on the promotion being
grower motivated, and it can certainly work like that, small groups of
growers getting together, competing with their pumpkins. It was that
larger vision of Waterman's that was so inticing to me. I just saw that
it need a different approach, a more encompassing one. He was working to
make this an international event. I don't think that could happen on its
own, through grower promotion only. It would take some real
organizational skill. I don't care for term trashing. If that is what it
seems please excuse me. It is just that when you begin to see the petty
politics that keep this sport of pumpkin growing from being all that it
can, you just get angry. And please understand these are my personal
thoughts only. We both are most likely right on some issues and wrong on
others. I think we need to have open discussions like this to help clear
up each other's understanding of things. Your posts have been very
helpful that way. I'm going to read them again.
Joe
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>From: brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie Brock)
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>Joe, I am having a hard time following your point other than you are
really
>into promoting this sport......I am not so sure you have to do anything
to
>promote it its like you say one big pumpkin can do a community
>wonders....but its the big pumpkin that does more promotion than any
>organization......people see them for the first time and flip....it
really
>is the growers that do all the promotion they give uncle george some
>seed....and hes hooked ...he passes it on to his buddies they all pool
$50
>for there own private neighborhood contest.....on and on and the sport
is
>growing as fast as the vines do......As far as the plaques, ribbons and
>purse those have always been up to the individual sites.to lure the big
one
>to there site..but the GPC....hands out their own plaques if you go to
a
>weigh -in that is also one of their sites.......Chris Andersen has
>one!..Says its nice!.......If your having a race you all have to start
at
>the gun and have to have a common finish line..to be fair....if these
>dates are lousy for your climate you have to do what ever it takes to
make
>it work to play with the GPC dates...and having a site near by is
>nice......right now we don't have one in Ca....I know its frustrating
>living in an area that is not conducive to growing these
>Giants......Ca...growers were at the point where we felt we never had a
>chance because of the extreme heat .that it could'nt be done..then
Andersen
>went the extra mile and waalaa..........so your right Joe the GPC might
not
>fit your needs .......but whats the point on harping on the fact they
don't
>feel promotion is necessary....maybe its not . to them....the members I
>have met seem like a fine group of people!! It just seems like the same
>thing over and over the head of the SPGA trashing the GPC.....and I
just
>don't see the point......brock
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>I can appreciate your position Pumkinguy. It doesn't leave the GPC
with
>>much of a function outside of that small area of the country that has
a
>>chance at some of it's prize money. The rules have been established
for
>>sometime now, even before the GPC. I am not sure what incentive a
group
>>growing in an area that for the most part leaves them no chance of
>>partaking in prize money, would have to become a GPC site. If their
$500
>>a year site fee was helping to promote the sport it might make sense
to
>>become a member, sharing this common purpose but the GPC is not
>>interested in promotion of the sport. Then what would that site get
for
>>it's $500. I don't know of a thing. They would even have to buy their
>>own ribbons and plaques to give out as prizes. They might do better
>>keeping the $500 and placing it towards the success of there
independent
>>weighoff. I think it is easier for those in your part of the country
to
>>take your position. It works well - up there. But it's a small circle
>>and it becomes more and more obvious as the sport becomes more
popular.
>>For me it's not about money, its about the love of the sport and
wanting
>>others to partake in what you love so much. It's a great and good
sport,
>>one that the GPC should be interested in spreading into all areas of
the
>>country where growing "that great" pumpkin hasn't been experienced. I
>>have seen what a positive effect just one giant pumpkin can have on a
>>community. We need that.
>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
>Joe, I am having a hard time following your point other than you are
really
>into promoting this sport......I am not so sure you have to do anything
to
>promote it its like you say one big pumpkin can do a community
>wonders....but its the big pumpkin that does more promotion than any
>organization......people see them for the first time and flip....it
really
>is the growers that do all the promotion they give uncle george some
>seed....and hes hooked ...he passes it on to his buddies they all pool
$50
>for there own private neighborhood contest.....on and on and the sport
is
>growing as fast as the vines do......As far as the plaques, ribbons and
>purse those have always been up to the individual sites.to lure the big
one
>to there site..but the GPC....hands out their own plaques if you go to
>weigh -in that is also one of their sites.......Chris Andersen has
>one!..Says its nice!.......If your having a race you all have to start
at
>the gun and have to have a common finish line..to be fair....if these
>dates are lousy for your climate you have to do what ever it takes to
make
>it work to play with the GPC dates...and having a site near by is
>nice......right now we don't have one in Ca....I know its frustrating
>living in an area that is not conducive to growing these
>Giants......Ca...growers were at the point where we felt we never had a
>chance because of the extreme heat .that it could'nt be done..then
Andersen
>went the extra mile and waalaa..........so your right Joe the GPC might
not
>fit your needs .......but whats the point on harping on the fact they
don't
>feel promotion is necessary....maybe its not . to them....the members I
>have met seem like a fine group of people!! It just seems like the same
>thing over and over the head of the SPGA trashing the GPC.....and I
just
>don't see the point......brock
>
>
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