Dont forget to use the pumpkin search engine. If you are lost and need to search past questions, this is the place to try your luck http://www.mallorn.com/lists/pumpkins/search.cgi -- Duncan McAlpine, Federal Way, WA m*@eskimo.com Why buy plants when you can grow them yourself.....? http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/ http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/pumkin.html