Re: AG thoughts
- Subject: Re: AG thoughts
- From: B* V*
- Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:45:16 -0400
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Rock:
Looking at your list of examples, it seems that a outcross is required re second generation
to get to the big one in most cases. Selfed not that great, next generation with outcross real
good, following generation throwing real well. Correct me if I'm wrong. See I said we will all learn
from this discussion.
At 08:58 PM 11/13/01 , you wrote:
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- ...
- Maybe the selfing will increase the color, shape ect. but I really
- believe it hurts size & is this not what we are hunting for in this sport. How many
- selfed has grown big ones.?????
There are many examples out there that prove that selfing has and does work (size, shape AND color). Here are a few examples that prove it. This info was taken from the AGGC database and contains only 900+ fruit that grew from a selfed seed.
FRUIT
SEED
CROSS (mother seed)
COMMENT
1090 Weir
490 Donkers
990 Bax x self
490 has grown many 700+
1036.5 Kline
968 Sproule
690 Sproule x self
968 has grown a few big ones..also some green ones
978.5 Lloyd
650 Lloyd
752.8 Craven x self
The 978 has grown a couple 800+
975.6 Gervais
1092 Burke
935 Lloyd x self
The 1092 has grown 7 700+, and the 975.6 has grown a 800+
975 Zehr
914 Weir
792 Holland x self
975 has grown a 1000+, 914 has grown many big ones as well and is grandma to many big ones.
968 Stellpflug
1009.5 Eaton
946.5 Geerts x sib
Sibbed not selfed. 1009.5 has grown 4 700+
962 Willemse
706.5 Willemse
724 Willemse x self
962 is the result of 4 generations of selfing !
945.5 Dejong
836 Craven
827 Holland x self
836 has grown 3 800+
935 Lloyd
875 Lloyd
687 Lloyd
935 speaks for itself&one of the best seeds ever.
900.5 Lyons*
724 Willemse
573 McCahill x self
900.5 has grown a 1000+, and is in the parentage of other 1000+. It's also the result of 3 generations of selfing ! I think its safe to say that selfing works. Might or might not be the best route (not for me to make that call), but definitely a good and proven alternative. It does work. Rock
Thanks,
Bill Van Iderstine
P.E.I. Record Holder @ 945 lbs. 2001
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