In a message dated 98-01-16 13:32:01 EST, SPAINAA@MORRISVILLE.EDU writes: << Are there any good climbers that not only survive but thrive in shade? One side of the house looks like it needs something as there are not many windows -- it is in total shade on the north side of the house. >> I have had moderate success with clematises in places where hostas thrive. Also, the climbing hydrangea. Does anyone out their recommend varieties of Fallopia for this situation? Clyde Crockett z5 Indy IN ccredux@aol.com