AIS: Sage article issues

Dear one and all--
 
I'm now working steadily trying to get something that both covers the "SAGE" subject and is worth reading in the AIS Bulletin, while at the same time is useful, accurate and illustrated.  Especially illustrated!  Everything I've gotten on paper so far looks more like the beginning of a book, not an article.  Focus!  Focus!  Focus! and Keep it Simple, I keep reminding myself.
 
During our "anecdotal data" gathering stage there have been a number of significant photos--I'll list just a few of the many and then ask a question.
 
1) Michael M.--photos of flounce color patters top and bottom reflecting/partaking of near-by surfaces, i.e., underside and fall, topside and ? Stigma, style or insides of standards?  Makes a whale of a difference.  I'm reading as rapidly as I can a text loaned by Carole Tabor that gets down to the molecular level on Genetics, tissue differentiations, etc. etc. etc.--tough ground to plough, but very important for what we're doing.  Michael's photos are highly significant, I think, about where and how SA tissues arise in the cell differentiation stage.
 
2) Bill B.'s photos of varying pH effects on flounce _expression_--running counter to what has been observed in 'Devonshire Cream' for instance.  Those photos are loaded with information that goes way beyond the pH issue--it shows significantly at a glance how variable SA characteristics can be under different conditions, even in the same location.
 
3) Mike Sutton's photo of the single, unique event of the flounce on one fall of one blossom noted on Keppel's 'Wild Wings'--that flounce didn't happen because 'Wild Wings' is an obvious SA--it isn't.  But something was uncovered in its genetic makeup by the zap that wedge chimera received during tissue development that allowed, perhaps, rather than caused, the flounce to be present.  I think this incident is crucial to explain during our cross-making, counting and evaluation.  It suggests there is a "normalizing" inhibitor present in mainstream tall beardeds and their close kin, the failure of which began allowing SA's to emerge starting in the thirties or forties in Sass plicata lines primarily.
 
4) Not a photo, but the datum that 'Romantic Evening' produced not one SA in 300 or so seedlings--Mike Sutton, Michael M. report.  Tends to support the notion of an inhibitor.  A two generation test from a 'Romantic Evening' cross with an extreme SA followed up by a cross of a couple of those seedlings crossed again with an extreme SA (by which I mean 'Mesmerizer' or more--elaborated flounce I suppose one could say) may tell us much.
 
5) Mike Sutton's 'Bottoms Up' as a flounced variety from two cvs of George Sutton's from the same SA X 'HTB' ancestry, compared to the flounced Sutton varieties from 'Yaquina Blue' with the same SA (I think).....significant, especially, since 'Honky Tonk Blues' and 'Yaquina Blue' share Schreiner's L 100A in common as one parent, with the other parents of each not at all unrelated.  The difference in breeding behavior of the two requires a logical genetic explanation.  It suggests dosage effects.  That needs to be tested, although not necessarily with those varieties.  The last published version of the "Guidelines" provides such a test.  Some photos (mostly M. Sutton's) could be very helpful in this presentation.
 
6) Superstition Garden's (R. Tasco's?) photo of 'Solar Fire' is a "hot" and wonderful illustration of "spooned" SA's.  I'd love to see it used.  Rick?  Are you a lurker here?  Seems to me we have had at least one other photo of 'Solar Fire' circulate through the list as well....without going back to check, I have a dim memory of that being from Michael M.  Is that true, and could it be used as an alternative to Superstition's proprietary photo?
 
7) Photos of the cv's mentioned by name in the "Guidelines" for our '05 crosses.  Are any available?  A sampler might be good to include.
 
Now, the questions:  To use the photos, to quote folks by name and so on I will need explicit permissions for one-time use of the photos in this article for each and every photo used.  I will look for and try to post a standard form for such permissions.  Are any or all of you willing to grant such permission?
 
I assume, since we've been looking at them on-line, that all are in digital form.  There are guide-lines for photos having to do with formats and pixel size minima for the Bulletin cited below--got these from Bruce Filardi this morning in response to the question about requirements.  Do your photos meet, or can you supply them, in files meeting the criteria listed.  Filardi says he wishes the photo files to arrive on a CD, so is anyone prepared to have the files sent to them, and when complete, burn a photo CD?  I have the equipment--but haven't learned how to make it work.....other matters more urgent have intruded.
 
I'm not limiting my interest in photos or data and permissions to those explicitly mentioned above.  Any or all of those persons on the list may have contributed speculations, photos, comments or data by which the article would be greatly enriched should they be included  I need to know the largest, finest-grained, most pixel versions of any or all SA photos exhibiting some specific characteristic pertinant to SA genetics any of you might have.
 
Guidelines from Filardi regarding photos submitted for Bulletin use (based on what is used for the photo advertising minima, incidentally):

"Cover photo:  minimum 5.5" x 8.5" at 300 dpi, or 1650 by 2550 pixels

Inside photos:  on a page with multiple photos, minimum 2.75" x 2.75" or 825 pixels square. Can be horizontal or vertical with the minimum of the short side at 825 pixels. Ideally, we like to have them at 5.5" x 4.25" (1650 by 1275 pixels) or even larger, as that way we can crop and scale images as needed."--from Bruce Filardi, 8/27/04

Any photos used will be credited to the owner, of course and identified as "used by permission.'  This helps safeguard your rights as originator and owner of the image.

If the photos we have fall below those minima mentioned, they could still be used--they just will not have the sharp, well defined quality desired.

Our concern, I would imagine, would be the section on "Inside photos," although the back cover of the July issue gives me ideas......wouldn't an SA closeup be fun on the back cover?  Makes my mouth water to think about.....

Our target is the January '05 issue, but that cut-off date for submissions is going to come fast, folks, so don't be too shy or too slow to speak up. 

If you do not want to be quoted or quoted by name, please say so.  I will respect that.

SUMMARY:  I need permissions that identify photo file or some other unique tag for each photo that might be used, specifying the one-time use in the SAGE introductory article for the AIS Bulletin from each of you that has photos that are sharp, clear, and informative about some aspect of possible genetic implications of SA parts or blossoms.  Give me and/or B. Filardi some choice on which and what to include.  Only a few photos will be selected out of the many possible.  Those files will need to be sent to whoever on the list is prepared to collect them and prepare a CD, and get them in to Filardi before the deadline for submissions date.  That date is in the first week or so of November.

I need permission (or it would at least be gracious to have permission) to quote data and/or speculations from anyone quoted by name, which could include any one of those who has posted to the list.

If you have any doubt or question about what I am asking for, please drop me a line--either on the list (as others may have the same question) or privately at n*@charter.net , my primary personal e-mail address.

You have all been wonderfully helpful so far, and I am most grateful to be part of this list and part of your lives. 

I hope the SAGE article emerges as a well presented, well illustrated piece of print that will attract AIS readers and further interest in the SA's, while at the same time reflecting well on the work and credit due to each and every one of this group. 

What we are in the process of doing with SAGE is not a small matter and may lead to a deepening understanding of iris genetics in general.

Neil Mogensen   z 7  western NC mountains

 

 

 

 


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