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Re: Scotts Company & USBG

I agree with Cyndy.  When problems with our environment reach a
critical level, perhaps we'll have more believers but its a
shame to have to wait until that time.
    Considering that chemicals interrupt important processes of
beneficial microbes, fertilizers are dumped into water causing
over population of harmful microbes and decimation of animal
populations, the manufactor of the chemicals pollute our air
and water, and the transportation of massive amounts of these
chemicals to retail stores causes more pollution, I'm surprised
to find too many can truly think that Scotts or any other
fertilizer processor (pun intended) can be called responsible,
respectable companies.
   Since I live in an area that is less than perfect for
growing food, I can speak from experience that it is entirely
possible no matter the circumstances to better the quality of
the environment and garden and life by doing without any type
of chemicals what so ever.  If anyone would like some easy to
follow, helpful hints, I stand ready to share my experience.
  I for one am not willing to let any chemical company have
even a small portion of my hard earned funds when they so
willing put profit before quality of human life and even before
the quality of health of human life.
Laura McKenzie

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Flint <jimf@garden.org>
To: community_garden@mallorn <community_garden@mallorn.com>;
Cyndy Ross <cynross@tir.com>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 9:03 AM
Subject: [cg] Scotts Company & USBG

> Cyndy,
> I respect your viewpoint on the use of synthetic chemicals
and am equally
> concerned about environmental quality. I also respect that
within the world
> of community gardeners, there are a diversity of perspectives
and issues
> regarding growing methods.
> My original response was based on reading your email posting
and the
> article that was attached. Where we differ in is how we
looked at the USBG
> press release and perhaps in our perspectives on what makes a
> responsible company.
> In my opinion, the comparison between Scotts, tobacco, and
drug dealers is
> unfair. On the other hand, as Judy Tiger suggests, we as
> gardeners may have an opportunity to have an influence
(through effective
> advocacy) on the Scotts product line and on the horticultural
> that are used at the US Botanical Garden.
> I've found Scotts to be a pretty responsive company to
gardeners, and I'll
> forward along messages, concerns, and ideas from the ACGA
List Serve
> directly to the company. Scotts web site also has a comment
section where
> email comments can be sent directly to at
> <http://www.scottscompany.com/html/contact.cfm>
> So let's move to a step of sharing ideas and information, and
see what
> postive steps can result.
> Peace,
> Jim
> At 11:00 AM 11/18/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >Jim
> >
> >Your response tells me you did not read the attached
article.  Perhaps you
> >did not receive it.  Here is the website address
> >http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/nat_garden/ng_updates.html  Please
review for
> >yourself.  If you still need more information on what
synthetic chemicals
> >are doing to our gifted planet, I'd be happy to pass along
more resources to
> >you.  Also, please refer to the ACGA's archived files.  By
all means, I
> >encourage everyone to become more educated, particularly
when it comes to
> >topics such as this.....propaganda is no better than gossip
& just as
> >destructive.  'Tis far better to persuade people to do the
right thing.
> >
> >I don't doubt the Scott's company does "good deeds" nor do I
criticize the
> >generosity.  Yet, I do criticize how & where the revenue is
earned in order
> >to make such a substantial donate.  Character always
matters.  Good deeds do
> >not cancel bad ones if the bad ones continue.  Just like one
of the major
> >objections (among the 95) Dr. Martin Luther had with the
Roman Catholic
> >Church in the 16th century, 'you can't buy indulgences to
replace remorse or
> >repentance for forgiveness'.  Would you have a problem with
drug dealers or
> >terrorists funding much need school programs?   Or, tobacco
> >funding cancer wings in hospitals while continuing to
advertise cigarettes
> >to teenagers?
> >
> >Many postings on this site, particularly over the past few
months, have
> >provided substantial resources concerning the detriment of
> >chemicals to our precious earth, including 'Roundup'.  One
of the main
> >offending products Scotts company offers is "Roundup".
Other leading
> >products by Scotts company:  Miracle-Gro (makes plants
deplete nutrients out
> >of the soil at an unnatural accelerated rate, faster than
nutrients are
> >added), Miracid, Ortho, Hyponex, EarthGro, & Osmocate.  What
good is
> >donating food contaminated with chemicals if people become
sick (i.e.
> >cancer).  John Hopkins' Hospital recently had articles
verifying pesticides
> >can cause cancer.  Granted, I'm not sure if the pesticides
they tested were
> >from Scotts.  However, it raises an extremely valid question
to ask &
> >investigate.
> >
> >I have been told by a biology professor (graduate level)
that healthy soil
> >contains micro-organisms & nutrients registering in the
millions per square
> >foot (or inch ?).  And, that in controlled experiments
synthetic chemicals
> >have dramatically reduce the numbers to mid-hundreds.  This
greatly affects
> >plants & all those relying on the growth of plants.
Therefore, this is a
> >much bigger picture than "passionate feelings" & has more to
do with simple
> >rights & wrongs of stewardship.
> >
> >Thank you for taking the time to respond.  Peace be with
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Cyndy Ross, Chairperson
> >SLLC Organic Community Garden
> >Sylvan Lake Lutheran Church
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Flint <jimf@garden.org>
> >To: community_garden@mallorn <community_garden@mallorn.com>;
Cyndy Ross
> ><cynross@tir.com>
> >Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 9:40 AM
> >Subject: [cg] Scotts Company & USBG
> >
> >
> >>
> >>Cyndy,
> >>
> >>Your note on the ACGA list serve caught my eye this
morning. Could you
> >>could provide more information on how Scott's products are
destroying the
> >>soil and harming our ecosystem. Is this a general
indictment for all
> >>Scott's products, or are there specific products that are
of concern?
> >>
> >>Looking at this issue from another perspective, questions
arise when a
> >>garden-based company makes a gift to a public garden and
then is criticized
> >>in a community forum for their generosity.
> >>
> >>Perhaps before community gardeners are encouraged to fax
notes to the
> >>director of the US Botanical Garden, Robert Hansen, there
might be more
> >>information available from differing viewpoints for members
of the
> >>community garden list serve to consider.
> >>
> >>For example .... Scotts has been extremely generous in
providing support
> >>for Plant A Row for the Hungry, which is sponsored by the
Garden Writers of
> >>America. This program is active in hundreds of community
gardens throughout
> >>the country and helps Food Banks by encouraging donations
of fresh produce.
> >>Scotts has also provided financial support for community
parks, school, and
> >>youth garden programs that have a positive impact on
thousands of children.
> >>
> >>
> >>While as community gardeners we have passionate feelings
about the earth,
> >>let's open this issue up to some discussion and work in a
collaborative way
> >>to advocate for community gardening and protection of our
> >>without alienating companies like Scotts who actively
support community and
> >>school gardening efforts.
> >>
> >>Sincerely,
> >>
> >>Jim Flint
> >>Youth Garden Grants Director
> >>National Gardening Association
> >>
> >>
> >>At 01:41 PM 11/17/1999 -0500, you wrote:
> >>>Did you realize that our US Botanical Garden is being
supported by "The
> >>>Scott's Company"? The conflict, however, is that Scott's
> >>produce/manufacture >products which destroy the soil & in
turn, harm our
> >>delicate ecosystem. Rather >than purpetuating the sale &
manufacture of
> >>such harmful products to "buy >indulgences" via supporting
The National
> >>Garden, we would all be much better >off if they just
ceased & desist. If
> >>you are as appalled by this adultery as I >am, please
> >>>contact the Executive Director, Robert Hansen, fax  (202)
> >Thank
> >>>you for your time.   Peace Be With You, Cyndy Ross,
Chairperson SLLC
> >>>Organic Community Garden Sylvan Lake Lutheran Church 2399
Figa Avenue W.
> >>>Bloomfield, MI 48324-1808   zone 6A
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
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