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Re: artificial trees

  • Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
  • From: Betsy Feuerstein ecuador@midsouth.rr.com
  • Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:32:51 -0500

Donna, thank Monty for a job well done.......... Betsy

Donna McGraw wrote:

> My wonderful husband figured out a way for you to see the pictures.  Go to
> http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/mmcgraw74
> and click on the Fairchild folder.
> Click on a thumbnail to enlarge the picture (and again to make it even
> larger)
>
> I have more pictures if anyone wants to see them.  If you have any
> questions, I'll try to answer them.
>
> Donna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna McGraw" <donnamcg@swbell.net>
> To: <ferns@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
>
> > How can I show the pictures to the group????
> >
> > Donna
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Rogers" <kerogers@iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 12:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> >
> >
> > > Hi Donna
> > >
> > > 'Unfortunately' Ferns Hort don't have images.
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Donna McGraw" <donnamcg@swbell.net>
> > > To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:45 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just had to wade in on this topic - My husband (Monty) and I took
> > these
> > > > pictures at the Fairchild Botanical Gardens in Miami while we were at
> > the
> > > > Tropical Fern and Exotic Plant Show and Sale that took place the first
> > > > weekend in June.  We were amazed at the construction - these "tree
> > trunks"
> > > > are made of PVC covered with cork bark.  The bark was attached with
> > screws
> > > > in this case - it's shown in one of the pictures where we show the end
> > of
> > > > one of the "limbs"  This was absolutely amazing.  We're going to try
> it
> > in
> > > > our new conservatory, if we can find a source for the cork bark that
> > won't
> > > > break the bank.  I apologize for attaching so many pictures (I have
> more
> > > if
> > > > anyone wants a private viewing :-))  I was just trying to show as much
> > of
> > > > the display as possible.  I'm sorry, I don't know how to make the
> > pictures
> > > > smaller.
> > > >
> > > > Hope you enjoy,
> > > > Donna McGraw
> > > > Houston
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "betty" <bkhamilton@earthlink.net>
> > > > To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:13 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Keith,
> > > > >     Sadly, I could find no pics on their site, which is really too
> > > bad!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Betty
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith Rogers wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Betty
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't suppose there is any images of it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "betty" <bkhamilton@earthlink.net>
> > > > > > To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:32 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi to all,
> > > > > > >     At Chicago they mused everything from wire and fishing line
> to
> > > hot
> > > > > > glue gun
> > > > > > > and foam insulation, which is quite sticky, and would fill
> spaces
> > > and
> > > > > > provide a
> > > > > > > good adhesion for plant substrates, and can be covered with
> > sphagmun
> > > > which
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > will hold as well.  mBefore mthe plants cover the orange of the
> > > foam,
> > > > it
> > > > > > looks
> > > > > > > like a fungus peaking out!  (It is formaldehyde based, and not
> > good
> > > > inside
> > > > > > untill
> > > > > > > it has cured for a while.)  Whatever works elsewhere will work
> on
> > > the
> > > > PVC
> > > > > > base.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers, Betty
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > kerogers@iprimus.com.au wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Wim and others
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have also used wire netting made into a 4 in round and
> filled
> > > with
> > > > > > sphagnum
> > > > > > > > moss or old willow roots to grow epiphytes.  This wire only
> > lasts
> > > a
> > > > few
> > > > > > years,
> > > > > > > > stainless would be better, but expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To use PVC as a strengthen tube, it would need to have some
> > method
> > > > to
> > > > > > hold
> > > > > > > > the sphagnum to the pipe.  Perhaps wire or stainless netting
> > would
> > > > do
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > job.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes the PVC I mentioned is used here to grow strawberries and
> > > would
> > > > be
> > > > > > useful
> > > > > > > > for small ferns too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >-- Original Message --
> > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: [ferns] artificial trees
> > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:17:54 +0200
> > > > > > > > >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wisl.nl>
> > > > > > > > >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: ferns@hort.net
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Keith,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The result of what you describe is much like the terracotta
> > > > earthenware
> > > > > > > > dovecots
> > > > > > > > >that are commercially sold here as "strawberry pots" (see for
> > > > shape,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >apparently different material
> > > > http://www.potvis.org/Gallery_2_4.html).
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > >remind me that I still wanted to try them for fern use.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The difference with the proposed method is that the plants
> only
> > > can
> > > > > > crop
> > > > > > > > >out from your predifined cups, at least, I suppose the won't
> > grow
> > > > over
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >pvc outside. Also, the mortar/peat outside might look more
> > > > attractive
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > >when not overgrown.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Wim0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > >From: Keith Rogers [mailto:kerogers@iprimus.com.au]
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 09:13
> > > > > > > > >To: ferns@hort.net
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [ferns] artificial trees
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Hi Wim
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Forget Mortar, it appears not to be a concrete suggestion!!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Use 4 in or 6in PVC Sewer pipe for an erect pipe perhaps 3 or
> 4
> > > ft
> > > > > > long.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >You could just do a series of cuts in the pipe 3 or 4 inches
> > long
> > > > with
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >hacksaw around the circumference in varying positions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Warm it up bending the upper in and the lower out, this forms
> a
> > > say
> > > > > > half
> > > > > > > > >cup
> > > > > > > > >shape.
> > > > > > > > >The problem is if you put the pipe in the oven to real hot,
> the
> > > lot
> > > > > > becomes
> > > > > > > > >pliable.
> > > > > > > > >Heating with a blow torch, burns.
> > > > > > > > >Perhaps a hair drier would work.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Clean up the rough edges with a file and sandpaper.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Get a PVC cap, add a larger base for support, cut drain holes
> > in
> > > it
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > glue
> > > > > > > > >onto bottom.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >The contents is easy, use sphagnum moss.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Kindest regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Keith Rogers
> > > > > > > > >Mannum  South Australia
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Keith's Fern Page is at
> > > > > > > > >www.lm.net.au/~kerogers/
> > > > > > > > >Supporting the Fern Society of South Australia on
> > > > > > > > >www.chariot.net.au/~saufern/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > >From: "Winter, Wim de" <Wim.dewinter@wisl.nl>
> > > > > > > > >To: <ferns@hort.net>
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:12 AM
> > > > > > > > >Subject: [ferns] artificial trees
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> A colleage of mine told me something about constructing
> > > > artificial
> > > > > > trees
> > > > > > > > >for epiphyte growth. However, he did not know any details.
> > Maybe
> > > > some
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > >do?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> It starts with a pvc drainpipe. This is enveloped with a
> > > mixture
> > > > of
> > > > > > mortar
> > > > > > > > >and peat (1:2 ?). Litthe holes in the pipe allow water from
> the
> > > > pipe's
> > > > > > > > >interior to moisten the outside substratum. Cups could be
> > shaped
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >mortar to allow for easier planting.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> It's an intriguing idea, but imagining to construct it,
> > > questions
> > > > > > arise:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> - whats the size of the holes?
> > > > > > > > >> - is the pipe topped of with water, so should it be water
> > tight
> > > > at
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >bottom end?
> > > > > > > > >> - is the pipe filled up with any kind of spongy matter?
> > > > > > > > >> - is 1:2 the correct mortar:peat rate?
> > > > > > > > >> - isn't the mortar to alkaline for epiphytic species?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Any experiences?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Wim de Winter
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
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