Re: pruning

Dave, thanks for the comeback.  Always trying to expand my knowledge on 
growing these fruits.  So this year I'll break out the tape and measure 
the secondaries.  On the other hand, I grew a 902 lb pumpkin in 200 sq. 
ft. , and that includes some vines past the pumpkin.  This year I've 
expanded the patch to 300 sq. ft.  Hopefully, I'll get a 1350 lb beast.  
This year I was hoping to pollinate by June 25th.  Short growing season 
here in Northern Utah.  Our weigh-off is Sept. 25th.  Been a cold 
spring, and have yet to pollinate.  Again, thanks for the info.
Marco



dbhaskaran@aol.com wrote:

>Marco,
>Good question.  My biggest is 1355 lbs and it was done in about 150 ft of
>secondary vines...other growers I know who have gotten them much bigger...talk
>about # of secondaries and how long(so I just do the math)...Ideally if you
>can get more "salad"  by early July the better....I like to get them
>pollinated early in MN..as we've had a year (2004?) where it froze in my patch
>on Aug 21st(patch dropped to ground 28 degrees, and I got caught off
>guard)...so to max the avg night temp (key in MN for pumpkin growth)....June
>21st - Sept 1st...so want to get them rolling early if possible! Ideally for
>me...about 12-16ft pumpkin set and max the length of the secondaries...fill
>all open areas. (secondaries before the pumpkin...I'm not concerned much with
>them after the pumpkin...but still let them grow a bit.
>
>Not sure if I've helped.  ;-)
>
>Dave Bhaskaran
>Rochester, MN
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com>
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 6:12 am
>Subject: Re: pruning
>
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>Dave, 150 feet of vine got my interest. How did you arrive at that figure? How
>big a pumpkin is it expected to produce?
>cheers
>Marco
>Layton, UT
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>dbhaskaran@aol.com wrote:
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>>Hi Steve!
>>Glad things are going well for you this year and that you have 4 of mine
>>going...my 859 Bhaskaran is my worst plant this year...but it seems to have
>>the bad luck streak on it. Got dug up to start the year, MV snapped off,
>>etc.
>>Anyways, glad to hear my plants genetics are doing well for you...hopefully
>>pays off in Oct!
>>Dave.
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Sent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 9:26 am
>>Subject: RE: pruning
>>
>>
>>Thanks Dave! I have four vines from your stock in my patch this year. We are
>>aving a great spring this year and hope to get some decent fruit. I was in
>>innesota fishing in early June. I will be back in the early fall. I have
>>elatives in Rochester and St. Charles. I'll keep you posted on your vines
>>ere in Indiana.
>>Steve Haberman
>>-----Original Message-----
>>rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>>bhaskaran@aol.com
>>ent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:49 AM
>>o: pumpkins@hort.net
>>ubject: Re: pruning
>>Debbie,
>>only terminate the secondaries when I run our of room...so I'll have them
>>ig-zag to file open areas (maybe I lost a secondary to wind, etc)...the
>>oal
>>s to have a lot of "Salad" between the stump and the pumpkin using
>>econdaries....I think 150 ft of secondary is a number our group has been
>>sing...so if you have 10 secondaries of 15 ft...you can probably pollinate
>>loser to the stump...if they ar 8 feet long probably need to pollinate out
>>bout 20-25 ft....assuming around 18 secondaires.
>>also use the X-tree method and will pull off a lot of secondaries around
>>he pumpkin as I don't like to stress the stem on the pumpkin and when the
>>umpkin's stem gets up about 2-3 ft in the air...you don't want the
>>econdaries pulling it back down...so 0 stress...means 3-4 ft on each of
>>he
>>umpkin. I like the stem to be parallel to the ground and not kinked due to
>>tress. That is a goal...doesn't always happen.
>>ood luck
>>avid Bhaskaran
>>ochester, MN.
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>>----Original Message-----
>>rom: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>>o: pumpkins@hort.net
>>ent: Fri, Jun 25, 2010 6:44 am
>>ubject: Re: pruning
>>
>>o you terminate the secondaries at some point?
>>ebbie
>>
>>_______________________________
>>om: George & Carolyn Heyne <gheyne@millcomm.com>
>>: pumpkins@hort.net
>>nt: Fri, June 25, 2010 12:03:14 AM
>>bject: Re: pruning
>>ebbie,
>>keep most of my secondaries. As the pumpkin grows, I usually have to
>>emove
>>me secondaries on both sides of the vine to remove some of the stress on
>>he
>>in vine and the stem of the pumpkin. Some growers do remove a few
>>econdaries,
>>t I do not unless there are problems.
>>our vine definitions are correct.
>>eorge Heyne
>>chester, MN
>>---- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
>>: <pumpkins@hort.net>
>>nt: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:26 PM
>>bject: Re: pruning
>>George, do you keep all of your secondaries? To make sure I understand,
>>he
>>condaries come directly off the main? And the tertiary comes off the
>>condary?
>>Debbie
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: George & Carolyn Heyne <gheyne@millcomm.com>
>>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>Sent: Thu, June 24, 2010 11:12:19 PM
>>Subject: Re: pruning
>>Debbie,
>>I use the Christmas tree method and it works well for me. I would NOT use a
>>verse Christmas tree. You want your secondaries to be behind the pumpkin
>>nd
>>ose to the stump. I use small scissors to cut the tertiary vines. If I bury
>>e vines at the same time, the area where the tertiary was cut is usually
>>vered with soil. The pruning starts as soon as the tertiaries start growing
>>ich is now. The cut is fairly close to the vine.
>>George Heyne
>>Rochester, MN
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
>>To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:59 PM
>>Subject: pruning
>>
>>What type of pruning methods does the gang use? I was reading DL's World
>>ass Pumpkins III and it discussed the christmas tree and flag pole. Does
>>ny
>>e use these? Can I do a reverse Christmas tree, or are the secondaries
>>ear
>>e stump too important?
>>
>>Also, do you use garden shears to prune? Do you cover the cut with soil?
>>en do you start pruning? How close to the main (or secondary) do you cut?
>>
>>Debbie
>>
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