Re: [Aroid-l] Philodendron stenolobum

**a san juan k*@yahoo.com**

"Is it a sub-species of stenolobum or something
without a name that needs to be described? Look
forward to shedding more light on this. cheers"

Good point, and worth a look by Eduardo, although
again depending on just subtle leaf shape might not be
enough, especially if Eduardo is seeing a continuum of
leaf shapes for this 'old' P. williamsii/P. stenolobum
in the local area. I'll take more pics of the 'old' P.
williamsii/P. stenolobum - perhaps this 'mystery' can
be solved.

--- Neil Crafter <golfstra@senet.com.au> wrote:

> Russ and Eduardo
> I have both these plants - the 'new' P stenolobum
> and the 'old' P. 
> williamsii. Like you Russ, I think that just by
> looking at them that 
> they are different species. Old williamsii's leaves
> are longer, 
> narrower and much stiffer and I suspect the petioles
> are typically 
> longer too. Eduardo, you are saying that the plant
> considered by most 
> people to be P. williamsii is not the true
> williamsii as this has a 
> broader leaf like speciosum. Then what is the 'old'
> P. williamsii then? 
> Is it a sub-species of stenolobum or something
> without a name that 
> needs to be described? Look forward to shedding more
> light on this.
> cheers
> Neil
> 
> Neil Crafter
> Philodendron enthusiast
> Adelaide, Australia
> 
> On 01/07/2005, at 12:50 AM, Russ wrote:
> 
> > My P. stenolobum has leaves exactly like those of
> the large plant 
> > featured in last year's Aroid Show.  I find it
> hard
> > to believe that the plant that was called
> williamsii a few years ago, 
> > and was part of the controversy with the plant now
> > called stenolobum, could be a variation of
> stenolobum.  If they are, 
> > in fact, all to be called stenolobum, there will
> be much
> > confusion with this species.  Certainly they must
> be identified under 
> > different varietal names to avoid this. 
> > Russ
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