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Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.html
Karen-- Sorry I do not seem to recall your questions of late..
Would you please repost them? I am willing to bet they will draw answers! Nice
to meet you.
bill missen.
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From:
j*@sympatico.ca
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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 3:42
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Subject: Re: Allow further discussion of
related topics for sqfting?
Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.html
Hi, I'm quite new to this list and to square foot
gardening. I'm not new to gardening in general and I belong to other gardening
lists-a greenhouse list, another 4x4 list that is so inactive I'm going to
quit it and I have reams of gardening websites bookmarked for whenever I want
to amuse myself with general information on just about any topic.
I joined this list because its specific focus on sqft.
gardening was what I needed to concentrate on and find help with.
Unfortunately, I have not found it to be too inspiring or helpful so far for
someone in my beginning state. I've had several questions that are definitely
within the focus of this group posted for a couple days now and am still
hoping that someone out there can help but honestly I see mostly topics being
posted that could be posted on general discussion groups. I fully expected
(hoped) to find sqft. purists who could enthusiastically help me join the
ranks of this specialty and not simply swap gardening info in general.
Now I can certainly appreciate that a group like this
becomes friends and we wish to share ideas that fall farther away from the
centre of the wheel hub, to use someone else's analogy. A constructive
solution to this, and one which out of necessity was done with another loop I
belong to which is in no way related to gardening, was to form an offshoot
loop, in this case 'sq.ft. off topic loop'. We can still be friends together
but without diluting the specialized flavour of the official sq. ft. ON topic
loop. I don't mean to sound stuck up, but if this group
can't answer my questions when it is directly connected to Mel's site, where
can I get them answered? I realize too that many of you are past my beginner's
stage and the questions may seem boring or something but there is still a need
out there for someone to be available to help people like me get started. If
the energy it takes to participate in a loop gets put into off topic postings,
there will be less tendency to fulfill the original purpose and focus of the
loop and on topic postings will get neglected. This is what I feel is
happening currently. Have people run out of things to discuss about sqft.
principles? If so, why should newcomers be inspired to conversion? Following
Mel's book to the letter would likely only succeed if we all lived in his back
yard, so I was hoping to hear more discussion on the success and
failures you all have had in applying his principles and learning when and how
it is appropriate to adapt them. Bill, I liked your
phrase 'building sq.ft. gardening into an experience for all to enjoy'. I do
believe that many things in our yards will affect our sq.ft. experience and
vice versa. I do wish to hear about these experiences. It's the interaction of
sq.ft. principles with our yards that helps us to be inspired to enjoy it. But
for the purpose of this loop, I would hope to see a clear relationship of
elements discussed and their relevance to the sq.ft. experience.
One final suggestion. Rather than focus on whether
something was on or off topic and waste time discussing it, can we just assume
the best of each other and if someone posts something, trust that for him/her
it was related to sq.ft. gardening as he/she experiences it. Within this
gracious attitude though, I think it would be beneficial to all if we
evaluated our posts carefully and be willing to take the time to submit less
relevant topics elsewhere if it is so important to discuss.
Now if someone thinks I misunderstand the purpose of
this loop, kindly just tell me and direct me to where I can find what I am
looking for. It is not my intention to offend or impose on a pleasantly
functioning group if everyone else is happy with it being loosely related to
Mel's book content. Karen
Nickie A. Shasteen wrote:
Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.htmlI
heartily agree that my sq ft gardening extends to all areas of my yard and I
do appreciate all the info that many have shared on subjects that intertwine
... such as bees, poison ivy, clematis, etc. ... Nickie
----- Original Message -----
From:
b*@sprint.ca
To: s*@listbot.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 6:24
PM
Subject: Re: Allow further discussion
of related topics for sqfting? Square Foot Gardening List - http://www.flinet.com/~gallus/sqft.htmlDear Friends, Do others believe as I do that
our aesthetic-related discussions occurring here about "sqfting" cannot be
avoided from as easily as some seem to do? Do you wish that we could
benefit from ongoing discussions on some topics which complement sqfting
while nevertheless not directly discussing the mechanics of
gardening? I know I could benefit from others'
opinions of form, function, design, and experience. I suggest to you that
plants which may not be planted directly in our sqft beds but which affect
our whole gardening experience deserve to be discussed. Do our raised beds exist alone without affecting the appearance
and beauty of our yards and lives? Why can we not enjoy a greater latitude
while discussing these important factors in our yards and especially how
they relate directly to our whole experience as we enjoy and work in our
gardens? As I think of each step in building my own
square foot garden I cannot separate the annual and perennial flowers
which will provide such beauty. For example my clematis will be behind the
corn (if it works out). I am trying to work out a comprehensive garden
view where all the elements cannot be ignored without harming the
whole point of the exercise in the art of square foot
gardening. I ask you to share your view here either
for or against greater latitude so we may discuss more than just how we
build the physical garden but how we can build sqft gardening into an
experience for all to enjoy. Feel free to say what you think. You will not
hurt my feelings. Have a great day,bill
missen.
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