Re: HYB: breeding strategies
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: HYB: breeding strategies
  • From: L* M* <l*@lock-net.com>
  • Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:06:55 -0400

Loic, I have no idea how BQ will mix with the best of the modern 
reblooming medians.  I've found that with IMM crosses, I can't really 
tell ahead of time which crosses will take form in a direction I want. 
Some are just awful, a lot are just ok, a few good enough to try to take 
farther.

If you have any median rebloomers that have consistently produced modern 
form in <all> seedlings, no matter what you've crossed them with, those 
would probably work best. Less chance of recessive retro genes popping 
up to take over.  Maybe.  I really don't know.

The only BQ seedlings I've ever grown are from seeds Margie sent me, BQ 
X SELECT CIRCLE.  I posted a photo of some of them awhile ago.  Small 
flowers, fairly retro, poor substance, very unhealthy here. Survivors 
have grown like raggedy weeds - icky foliage and all.  This is their 
second fall - no sign of rebloom on any of them.

If anybody can make a cross of BQ X TREASURED, they probably wouldn't 
rebloom, but from what I've seen of T seedlings so far, they would 
probably be a step forward.  And if they were fertile here, I'd sure try 
to work with them.  ;-)

Loic, I think AUTUMN TWILIGHT would be another good rebloomer for you to 
work with - it's an IB already, and is a prolific stalk producer here. 
If I took good care of it, with lots of water and manure mulch, I'd bet 
it could bloom from spring to fall.  It seems to be a little less heat 
tolerant than BQ and IMM, but not much.  Attached are photos of the only 
AT cross I've tried - AUTUMN TWILIGHT X RENOWN.  Not all that terrible 
for a first generation, & if it ever summer blooms, I might try to do 
something with it.  Form is crumpled, & that seems to be genetic. 
Recessive tho (based on one data point from another cross), so easy to 
'hide' .

Linda Mann east TN USA zone 7

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