RE: Re:Iris brevicaulis Ontario

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> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:46:10 -0400
> Subject: Re: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis Ontario
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> Double checked agricultural zones. Point Pele is ag zone 7a, about
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> Subject: RE: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis Ontario
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> > Subject: Re: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis Ontario
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> > From: Dennis Kramb dkramb@badbear.com [iris-species]
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> > Subject: Re: [iris-species] Re:Iris brevicaulis Ontario
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> > Chuck, All this sounds right but they still need to be  flowered to
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> > > > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:35:13 -0400
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